 Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| What you have is a trail die that is on a worn old die. The trail lines have been attenuated by the metal flow that happens with every strike. The more strikes that the die makes, the deeper the lines get.
For those of you who are CONECA members, I have decided to do an article in ERRORSCOPE on this subject since it is material that I believe has never been broached. BJ Neff[/img] |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Wavy u lost me??? Can u tell in "coins for dummies" language?  |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| In several areas it looks like double trails.
Would that be from the top/bottom of the letters and both head the same way or is it a double trail coin (both from the same corner of the elements) if there's such a thing? |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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What he said  |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| This is "one of those" coins.
This is indeed a trail die that has been affected by die deterioration. As we all know, die deterioration flow lines are radial; in the direction of the cold metal flow. With the die in use the surface atoms are striped away with each strike from this flow. Areas form on the die surface where more of the atoms are striped away than in other areas, usually just after a design element. That is where die deterioration doubling comes into form However, in this case, the flow lines are not radial, but are in one direction. This means that another element is in the mix. In this case it is trails. Since trails are an indent in the die, metal flow will increase the size of these lines as the die ages and more atoms are striped away. What is interesting is that dies affected by trails will show deterioration faster in the area with trails than other parts of the die that are not affected by trails. So you may have a coin that is LDS in appearance but looks to be VLDS where the trails have affected the design elements. In a nutshell, the two biggest clues are; one directional deterioration flow lines and areas of advanced die deterioration not consistent with the overall die state of the coin. BJ Neff |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Bob, I am going to agree with you on this one,. At firsr, I thought yes, it is, but as the pgotos progressed, and knowing the devices position, AND, that trails all seem to "flow" in the same direction, I had to hesitate on any decision. It could be as you suggest, die wear, rather than trails, but BJ will have the answer. Hang in there Teri, we're rooting for you! | |
| Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I thought at one time that coins like this were strictly late die state. BJ corrected me on one that was indeed a trails die to boot. This one looks like one of those, but I will have to wait for his opinion on this one Tery. | |
| Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:12 pm Post subject: 96 trails? Special request by Dick "post something" |
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| Hi Wavy, & everyone:) Is this just die flow or really used di/hub....whatever, it's been a long time! Still got alot on plate but read Dicks post, about the site....so here I am:)
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