Buffalo Nickel question.... I know its not a penny!

[creilly]

Hello, I was digging through some pennies and came across a 1937 D with sadly 4 legs! But I have a question on the Obv.
Double Die?
You can follow it to the crown of the head along the hair. Also along the long feather to the right.. cant see it in the picture. Also the 9 shows it to but again.. cant see in the picture. Forhead, nose, Possibly the area just above the eyelid too. etc... Everything is slightly shifted to the right. It has 3/4 horn.
Bear with me I am still learning so much. When Im not looking at coins I am reading books or the board. Im still figuring out the whole double die; double strike thing.

[ldarrellc]

to Me that looks like stike doubling but I am no expert by any means Bob , C.D am I right or if I am wrong then lets have an educational class:P

[coop]

I would also say strike doubling as the doubling appears as a shelf/step down stair look. Machine doubling usually appears in the center of the letters/numbers/designs and you don't usually find it at the corners of devices. There are some doubled dies that don't have the splits at the corners, but most classes do. Strike doubling/machine doubling doesn't make letters/numbers wider like a doubled die would. The devices remain the same size, but at distorted with the step usually toward the rim direction. Doubled dies can be is different directions from coin to coin. Parts of the letters/number/details may be affected or all in the case of the 55, 72, 95. Other dies of the 72 year may affect just part of the coin. Machine doubling could distort both directions and usually doubled dies usually affect just one side/edge of lettering/numbers/devices. A tripled die can affect both sides of letters/number/devices. So the notches/width/direction is what sould be checked for doulbed/tripleddies and machine doubling/strike doubling has different rules. So studying a coin of each type will help train your eye to recognized the difference. I have a coin that the die is a doubled die on the right side and the left 1/2 of the coin show machine doubling. Split right up the center. The reason? The die was doubled, the machine that made the coin was loose and smeared the left 1/2 of the reverse. It does happen, but usually affects that value or desirablity of the coin. Just a few thought to help sort out the difference of the two.

[coppercoins]

Strike doubling - for the reasons Coop posted.

[creilly]

I was reading last night about a gal here who finds machine doubling.. I must be finding the ones she missed!!!

[creilly]

So a double die would the same height .. or almost the same height at the first die? Michine or strike double is lower?

[eagames]

Hey,
It's hard to make simple rules like about the height.
Maybe a good rule is if the metal making the second image looks taken from the first it's probably strike not ddo. There are real DDOs that look similar, look on the site to see if there's a known variety like it. You might also double check Conecas descriptions if you don't see one like it here. http://conecaonline.org/variety_listings.html

A few hints: Real DDOs aren't always more pronounced, sometimes it's harder to spot them than strike doubles. As somebody mentioned your eyes will learn to spot things better, you learn to spot things like wavysteps all of a sudden then wonder why you missed them before. You'll find things you missed, I always find stuff re-searching I've bought varieties then realized I had one but needed to see one before I could spot one like it.
Photos are great but in my early searching seemed to always make me expect them to show better than they do because of the perfect lighting people use in photos verses the way I searched.

You're smart to not part with your 200lbs of memorial pennies yet! You still might find nice ones you missed. My advice is sort them by date and mint mark. Look that year & mint up on the sites search. Look through the year/mint for each listed variety. Look for one variety at a time then go through the pile again for the next. That helps your eyes focus on one place and you'll notice the varieties easier. (I'd start with the 60, 64, 71, 72, 83, 84, 95 hoping for the big ones) Your 200lbs is a good batch to start with I think you'll find something neat. Good Luck

[Steven]

Try this page.
Steven

http://koinpro.tripod.com/Articles/OtherFormsOfDoubling.htm