Neat 1936 broken R but non DDO

[eagames]

One of my favorite years for DDOs is 1936.

According to the experts some of them are from a die hubbed with a broken R then hubbed with a non broken R so you see the doubling and you see the missing leg of the R is gone from one of the images. They also supposed that some coins were only hubbed with the broken R and would show the missing leg but not be DDOs. I had seen that on circulated coins but it's hard to tell if they were hit in circulation. Well here's an unc that I think has the missing leg without the DDO. I'm sure the experts were right about it.

This first pic is a non DDO with the missing leg, the second blury picture I took a while back is it's DDO cousin the 1DO-002 that shows the non broken over broken leg.

[Steven]

Another broken leg.

[eagames]

Steven,

That one's neat and I've never seen it listed.

So does that mean they made:

Regular
Broken (like my picture)
Regular over broken (1DO-001, 1DO-002, 1DO-003)
Broken over broken (like yours?)

[Steven]

Coneca may have this one listed, not sure. May be their #11.

Steven

[Bob P]

Hey guys,
The 1936 cent is one of the dates I have studied more than any other date, I have found all three of the major doubled die obverses in some quantity over the years. I also have 24 unattributed doubled die obverses in my personal collection right now. In addition, I have over 120 doubled die reverses that I still must sort out and list.
This year is a great year for variety hunting.
As far as obverse dies with extra thickness such as the one Steven listed, there are 3 or 4 of them out there. There are also 3 or 4 doubled eyelids as well as a few with minor separation on the date. This is another one of those years I need to tackle some day as there are many many nice varieties for the year.
Based on some research I have done concerning the 'Broken R Hub', I know for sure that it was used on at least 9 different coins, including the major doubled dies. I have been able to collect and document the 9 different coins rather easily, but it leads me to believe there may still be more than that.

[Steven]

I'll be waiting for you to list them Bob. I have several of the rev. and patiently waiting to match them up. Unfortunately only one obverse, the one I posted
Steven

[Bob P]

Whatever you do Steven...Don't hold your breath while waiting for me to get them all listed. I'd hate to see any of our members getting blue in the face
Actually, there are many dates that I have good numbers of doubled dies that I still need to attribute. At last count, I have almost 900 (yes...nine hundred) class 6 (extra thickness)reverses on wheat cents alone. I have over a hundred doubled eyelids, and probably over 100 class 6 obverses. When you accumulate that many of anything, it is hard to get motivated enough to start on them. All I can suggest is that you check the site often as I list them when I get the time. I have been listing other people's dies, but have neglected my own collection. I certainly don't mind that, but sometime I should really try working on my own set. I guess I don't pay myself enough??

[coop]

Bob:
I just added a DDR 36-P to your batch to send you in the next package. Its doubled over the entire reverse very strong. I got it off ebay about a 2 years ago. Still waiting for a match.

[Dick]

Gentlemen, I have a question. Steven mentioned "having several of the rev," I saw no reverse(s). All I saw was the obv, date, and motto, (trust). What reverses are youi referring to? I understand the identification of a particular die, (anvil, or Hammer), depending on the marriage of two dies, but none were shown, (or I missed them), and the PUP's involved. From the conversation, and the comments re the amount of 1936-X coins seen, The amount of these anomolies, (in hand), you guys are not young folks. I am 81, and feel like I am in front of some very savvy guys. Sort of like a novice, with 50 years of "gathering, ( off, and on), and about one year of actually collecting! I enjoy associating with folks like you, because it gives me a chance to do what I love most: Pick brains! I didn't have a chance as a kid, but now! Thanks for "being there", Dick

[Bob P]

Dick,
There are many different Class 6 (Extra Thickness) reverses for 1936. We have some of the data on the site, but not the pictures for them yet. The reverses we are referring to are the wheat stalks of the cent. (The anvil die.) In a lot of the wheat cent era coinage, the extra thickness on the revese of the coin involves nice extra thickness on the motto (E PLURIBUS UNUM), the dots in the motto, and the ouside of the wheat ears to include the stems. Some of these same coins also show some separation of the letters/wheat lines, and those are considered class 2 + 6. Extreme cases show the extra thickness on the tops of the letters of ONE, and on the bottom of the letters of OF AMERICA.

[coop]

Dick: I think what Steven meant was that he was waiting for the reverse dies to be listed. Its always nice to put a number to your die that is recognized. So far I list all my unkwown doubled dies with my system so I can organize them. I only mark RPMs with my coop number on unknowns when I send them to Bob. That way I can keep track of which ones I've sent and if I have an extra of a die, then I send him one for his files. Always nice to have a coin in the file. It is better as someone may ask a question and the image may not be handy for Bob to look at the coin. So we are waiting on Bob's list to help us find matches for his coins.
I'll add this image to get bob drooling again.....