DON"T BE FOOLED WITH EBAY AUCTIONS

Bob P · Site Admin

I like your spelling errors the best coop! I really got a laugh at your last post to this thread. Kinda hard to 'break' the habit if you breat it. All in good fun though Laughing

coop · Expert Member

And those keys aren't even close.... Computer error??

wavysteps2003 · Expert Member

When I first started collecting, I also was fooled by this type of fraudulent "error". This is just another type of "garage" error easily produced by a blow torch.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8392958559&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT
1944 Lincoln Cent Error "You Must See This!!!"

A letter was sent to the seller stating as such, but as of yet, no reply.

WAVYSTEPS2003

coop · Expert Member

As the image will disappear soon and this subject will remain, I'm adding the image from the auction. That way others will be able to view it later.

walkingdude · Veteran Member

Bob P · Site Admin

I have noticed that trend also Mike. I, like you, would tend to stay away from sellers like that. However, there are cases where a private auction is necessary.
I also stay away from folks who have their feedbacks blocked. Shouldn't be a problem if the seller or bidders have nothing to hide...right?

walkingdude · Veteran Member

I haven't noticed any blocked feedbacks. True with the private if it's one of those high dollar auctions I have seen, but I like to see what auction they are talking about when you see something like "Gold found or 1909s vdb".

wavysteps2003 · Expert Member

There is a time and place for "private ID's" to be used. Example; a certified, expensive coin is placed for auction (over $5000.00). In this case it would be wise to make the bidding list private. There are to many people who make it there "hobby" to obtain items illegally and information provided on a bidder list can help them in their quest.

Paranoia? - You bet. With all the scams, cons, id thefts, etc. one can never be to carefull.

One more thing - Happy Fathers Day to all of the fathers out there.

WAVYSTEPS2003

eagames · Expert Member

Here's exactly what to look out for:

http://cgi.ebay.com/US-Licoln-Wheat-Cent-1955-DDO-Double-Die-EF40_W0QQitemZ260000530356QQihZ016QQcategoryZ39457QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Note the 100% feedback but the items are 1 cent purchases!
Note the private listing.
Note the fake looking toning.
Note the cast look to the coin.
Note it's from Toronto.

See article below on Toranto counterfeits that exactly describe this item to a T!

http://rg.ancients.info/guide/counterfeits.html

I don't need to tell you if I think it is real, what do you think?

(update: eventualy ebay stopped that seller so I'm sure he changed names and continued on)

walkingdude · Veteran Member

The price itself would give me a warning, the picture I don't know. I only have Chuck's book to go by and he has the really good ddo. Very Happy

Yoy're right about the lousy picture thou and thanks for the info I wasn't aware of anything like that going on. Crying or Very sad

eagames · Expert Member

Good to keep this string up, there are new folks on the forum that might have not read this string.

Years ago I'd mail sellers explaining why they're wrong but I figured it's a waste of time and valuable error electrons.

Here's some examples of it, most of them you could send a form letter saying "did you compare your rare variety coin to the ones you got in change to see if it's different?" or "if your coin is so rare and worth a fortune why not get it graded" or "why are you talking about the pcgs price guide for something different than you are selling?" Laughing

One guy that decided his normal wide AM 92-d is a close AM but his picture clearly shows it is a normal wide AM... with those typical statements "worth $500 would look great in your collection"

http://cgi.ebay.com/US-COIN-1992-D-LINCOLN-PENNY-CLOSE-AM-500-BOOK-VALUE_W0QQitemZ290054140611QQihZ019QQcategoryZ31373QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Another guy that thinks all 92 normal wide AM cents are worth $50.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-WIDE-AM-PENNIES-1-1992-AND-1-1992-D-JUDGE-CONDITION_W0QQitemZ190054927282QQihZ009QQcategoryZ31373QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Or this guy that makes fake errors himself and sells saying done after the mint which is true but that junk on the market to confuse people or somedat gets re-sold as an error:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1974-lincoln-cent-double-die-error-1-day-sale-i_W0QQitemZ250053029000QQihZ015QQcategoryZ524QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Sorry to sound sarcastic but there's absolutely no excuse for these sellers! They give variety collecting a bad reputation with their ridiculus listings. Buyers beware! Evil or Very Mad

ldarrellc · Senior Member

ED: the last liink you posted I wrote the seller a question or rather a statement see if He does it .............I dare you to add this to your listing so buyers can see ir .......... why are you people actually bidding on something that is truely a fake and has been explained as a fake. thinks like that are bad for business of the true variety collector.

eagames · Expert Member

The funny thing is that same seller that made stuff was selling one thing last week that he made... In his add he said he bought it but a "local dealer" said it might be fake. Funny that the guy that made stuff pretended he bought it!! And he had to ask a "local dealer". Wonder if he told the dealer he found it in the vice in his garage between a board and homemade die Idea

Here's an example! The same guy claimed he bought this but was told it was altered. It was made the same way as he makes the other fake but he said he had to ask a dealer. I would call that clear evidence of fraud. In my opinion he should be reported to ebay as fraud.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250045016273

ldarrellc · Senior Member

I am getting My vice ready as we speak. I shall be rich at the end of the month Razz

Dick · Expert Member

BJ, I have a 1969-S cent, that came from ebay! Yep, I "bought" one! Problem it "looks" like a MD type, until I got my scope, and then the truth came out. Not MD, NOT hub doubling, yes it is "double-struck", in fact it took several strokes to make the "doubling. Some one has some very SMALL punches, and a pretty sharp eye!. I'll post an image, so you will see. It cost $10,00. but I was just getting started in "collecting" again after 40 years "lay-off" .

I read about the "white penny, and yes, I have that one, TOO! This one was not coated in Mercury, but was chromed. I was hoping it might be aluminium!
When I took the photo, it came out "brown", on screen. WHY is this? It is as white as any dime!

As the old "Carney" said: There is a sucker born every minute, and two out to get him"!
BTW, anybody ready for some "pickings", (left-overs), from dinner???
Dick