1960-1mm-020 and 1960-1mm-064 the same coin on the site

[Earwig]

I just found a bunch of 1960-1mm-020 and was looking at site and and noticed that it had the same exact markers that 020 and 064 so did overlay and it is the same coin. i do have a Coneca rpm 64 stage b and it is def not the coin on the site ill do my best to get a few pics up to show the difference My example of rpm 64 has all the markers listed at conecas site and in the lincoln rpm book. Ill edit this post with pics later today

Eric

[coppercoins]

You sure you don't have some numbers confused? I went into the site to check up on this and didn't find any information listed for 1961D-1MM-064.

[Earwig]

Fixed post ment 1960 sorry bout that just shows accidents happen

[coppercoins]

Indeed the photos listed of 1960D-1MM-064 are actually an example of 1960D-1MM-020. Coop, you may want to take note of this for your collection because both sets of photos are yours.

I will photograph the correct die #64 and post it this week.

Thanks for the follow-up Earwig - nice investigative work.

If your coins are actually of #64 keep me in mind when you decide to dispense some of them. I need a better example for the master file.

[Earwig]

I only got 1 but im sure i have some in tubes i can send you the 1 i have to take photos of plus a couple others 1943d double dies that are not on the site atm. Just let me know and i will get them in the mail

Eric

[coop]

Chuck: Just checked and they are both 064. The coins were attributed incorrect. I've got a 020 I found the other day, but didn't compare it to the 020 I have. I will send Bob images of the 020. ASAP.
Eric: Good catch. The two I have are slightly in different die states. The LDS one on 064 is actually MDS and the MDS 020 is really 064 LDS. We'll get the images correct as soon as Bob can get to it. I'll try to get the images to him today for the 020. Sorry for the confussion.

Added: Rechecking my other coin and it doesn't match 020 either. Not a 064, but something different. Bummer.....

Take 2 Added So the 064 is actually 020. Re-read your post Chuck and I had it figured the other way. Now I need to see if this one is a 064 then?

I knew it wasn't 020, then I didn't know which one it was. Hard to tell from the RPM book as the Lower North is in the dark in the CONECA image.

[Earwig]

According to to Dr wiles book you got a 20 64 has a dif angle to the top of the top D but who knows when you figure it out let me know. and also a die break across right eave i can send my coin to some1 to look at if they want it was givin to me by a pretty reliable source. This is the coin i got listed as 64 what is the chance ebay had 1 lol. The coin i got is stage B by the way



Erichttp://cgi.ebay.com/1960-D-Lincoln-Cent-RPM-64c-Brilliant-Uncirculated_W0QQitemZ270011181302QQihZ017QQcategoryZ524QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item270011181302

[Earwig]

Thats 64 coop thats like the 1 i have

[coop]

Eric: OK, that's cleared up. The 064 coin was attributed a few years back, but I didn't realize there were two that looked that similar. So when I read the posts, I marked both of the coins 064 instead of 020. Then ran into the coin posted and knew it was not the same as 020 in the the book. The image for 064 is so dark I couldn't see what the close north looked like. So I switched the coins to the right numbers in my collection. The 020 has a weaker RPM than the 064. Also the close north on each coin different. The spread on the 020 is further than 064 and more rounded. The 064 close north is flatter. So all might like to check their collections to make sure they have the right coins for this die number.

[Earwig]

Just thought i would let you know was sending some coins to criely that i knew were attributed right and come across that 1 so i did some investigating. i tried to get a good pic of mine but until i get a 10x wide field lens for my scope i had no chance of gettin a good image. The coin seems kinda difficult to get a decent photo of. At the moment i have a 5x lens on my scope and the eye relief makes it almost unusable especially for photos.

Eric

[coop]

Eric: I know what you are talking about hard to photo. I use a ramp and I had to get it at just the right angle to get that image. I concentrated on the flat close north as that is what was the biggest difference in these two dies. It is embarrasing having the wrong one on the site, but I hope this thread prevents the confussion on the difference on the two dies. Reader who read this completed dissusion will come to the right conclussion because of the second look at these two dies.