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RobertSenior Member
Posts: 896 Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 8:38 pm |
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I don't know much about early U.S. copper, but I do seem to see a lot of early large cents with heavy pitting/ corrosion.
Does anyone know the source/ reason for so much corrosion on these particular coins?
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coppercoinsSite Admin
Posts: 2809 Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Location: Springfield, Missouri.
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 8:52 pm |
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Bob PSite Admin
Posts: 3482 Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Niceville, Florida
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 6:52 pm |
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Chuck has got it right on Robert. The processes for making planchets those days wasn't much different than what they are today, but thier smelting techniques weren't the best. Many of the early coppers corroded easily, many times form the inside out. Impurites in the copper was a primary factor. and many times gas bubbles were trapped in the metal making the surface of the coin much more brittle. Any hit to the coin may have disturbed or broken the outermost surfaces leading to pitting and corrosion.
Bob P
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GarryNExpert Member
Posts: 1296 Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 7:14 am |
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Planchets were sent by ship from England and many were corroded before they were coined. That is the cause of corrosion on the 1799, for example.
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smedSenior Member
Posts: 624 Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: Zephyrhills Florida
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:25 pm |
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Don't forget rusted dies... I don't know of any in particular, but I remember reading somewhere about particular issues being struck from rusted dies and that causing pitting on those coins...
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coppercoinsSite Admin
Posts: 2809 Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Location: Springfield, Missouri.
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:19 pm |
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Smed has a point...there were many rusted dies used on those old screw presses - not like these days where a die can punch out a million coins in a day and be worn out of use before even surface rust would have a chance to set in - those dies back then were used for weeks to mint their measly 5,000 or so coins before being replaced, and there was no environment control in the old mint...other than 'windows open' - 'windows shut' - 'fireplace lit' - 'fireplace unlit'
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MarkMember
Posts: 43 Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Location: Florida
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 7:54 am |
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Presumably mint officials stored the dies in grease when they had to shut down the mint for a more extended period of time, eg, to run from yellow fever. But I presume that the grease wasn't a wonderful solution when it came to avoiding rust, so I guess that the stored dies probably had a tendency to rust.
Mark
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