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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:10 pm Reply with quote

There is doubling in "In God W" the rest is worn. Am I seeing double's? My picture taking isn't the best.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:17 pm Reply with quote

Looks to be a lighting effect to me???
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:21 pm Reply with quote

Thank's Steven, I'm having problem's with getting to point A to point B. Just a bad nite.

I may just try again tomorrow.



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:23 pm Reply with quote

When the light strikes the field next to a device on the coin it can appear to be doubling. Let's see what others say on this though.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:24 pm Reply with quote

Whoo just noticed the other photos you added Shocked looks like you may have something there.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:27 pm Reply with quote

Just by looking thru the 30 x loupe it does appear to be doubling. The picture's, well like I said, It's been a long day, short time to bed. I will try again tomorrow. Thank's




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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:44 pm Reply with quote

Steven, check the "in GOD W". I note a possiblr MD , but I can't be sure because of clarity. The areas of the "G" don't show enough to give a "notch", or not. Keep your fingers crossed, David.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:15 am Reply with quote

Looks like machine doubling to me. Remember that the main difference will be that doubled dies tend to have notching at the corners of the affected devices, while machine doubling never does. Also machine doubling tends to be flattened down while doubled dies have raised relief.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:21 am Reply with quote

I just want to clarify "notching". It is a extension of the letter or number that has a extension from either side.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:35 am Reply with quote

David, You may want to look these over.
http://www.coingalaxy.com/coininfo/doubling.html
http://home.sc.rr.com/dievarieties/MDDvsHubDoubling.pdf

Also I added these a while back you may want to look the over to help Identification.













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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:38 am Reply with quote

Steven: Very good job on the images. You've been experimenting with photoshop again. Of course it is always nice to have coins to get images of also.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:12 pm Reply with quote

Ok, maybe these pictures are clearer. There is doubling in the L next to the rim, the 9 in the date, and very minor on the reverse because of wear. I don't dis-agree with anyone that it may be MD. If it is, it is very excessive.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:44 pm Reply with quote

In these photos it is obvious that there is the flat shelf like appearance of machine doubling.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:48 pm Reply with quote

Ok, I had my doubt's to begin with. It never hurt's to try and find out.

When you refer to a shelf it's....90 degree's from the base. Or better yet a stair like effect, up-over-up. I'm thinking that's what you are saying.

Thank's Steven


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 5:04 pm Reply with quote

Yeah David,
I guess kinda like steps without the offset or notching.
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