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murphySenior Member
Posts: 573 Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Location: New Albany, Indiana USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:24 pm |
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Hint: In Chuck's book, the section about the die making process. You'll find the answer there.
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DickExpert Member
Posts: 5780 Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Location: Rialto, CA.
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:37 pm |
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Very interesting. Makes me think I might have called the wrong "number". I'll sit on my original guess, and see if it turns out as you infer.
Dick
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creillyVeteran Member
Posts: 341 Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Location: Minneapolis MN
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:17 am |
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Well I think its a 1995 with machine doubling..
But I know I am wrong.
EDITED AFTER I READ REST OF POST:
Eagames had my guess first..........
I am pouting!!
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ldarrellcSenior Member
Posts: 510 Joined: 05 Oct 2006
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:46 am |
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well my oppion....... Bob has already stated it is a 1995D lincoln cent. so there for we know it could not be a D/D. you dont see many 1995D's with a MM with a bubble burst on the mint mark(atleast i dont) actually it looks like it could have been also cleaned at one point in time. as far as the bubble i think i9t was caught in a fire somewhere and cleaned to look that way. thats My guess I am sure it is wrong but it is a guess.
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wavysteps2003Expert Member
Posts: 1344 Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:24 am |
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From the picture there is no evidence of notching, no extra thickness on the tails of the two 9's in the date and with doubling both on the top and the side of the bottom serif of the mint mark my conclusion would be machine damage doubling.
While it is possible to see doubling on the mint mark from the 1990's, it is not a function of the mint mark being a repunched. A doubled die will look similar to this picture. Notice the notching on the top serif and the division lines on the vertical and curved portions of the "D".
Since Bob's die has no similarities, it leaves us with MDD.
BJ Neff
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Bob PSite Admin
Posts: 3482 Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Niceville, Florida
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:55 pm |
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OK Folks,
Some very good dialogue here, and a lot of you did exactly what I was hoping, and that was to analyze the data given, and make an educated guess. As attributers, we have to do this on every coin sent in. Sometimes, the answers we give are not well received, and we are wrong occasionally.
On this coin, the correct answer is Mechanical die damage. I mentioned the date for the reason some of you mentioned. It can not be an RPM because the hand punching of mintmarks stopped in 1990. It could have been a doubled die, but lacked the characteristic notching and other details as BJ explained.
The blow hole and all that stuff around it wasn't part of the test, but you had some great remarks about that, Basically, this coin was a machine doubled, nasty, cleaned coin. Thank you all for your responses.
I will post another one either tonight or by the weekend. It will be in this same section but titled 'Test Question # 2" Be looking for it!
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ldarrellcSenior Member
Posts: 510 Joined: 05 Oct 2006
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:12 pm |
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just goes to show you what you can learn from this site I do believe i said a cleaned coined atleast lol guess i am learning a lil bit.
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