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Bob PSite Admin
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:02 pm |
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Here's something you don't see every day. I got a roll of 2006P cents and quite a few had large die cracks on the back of the head. However, one of them in the roll (same die) had this monstrous die blob. Seems like within the roll, I got two distinct die stages, but not the one that should have been in between the two. Pretty cool huh?
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RhubarbSenior Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:17 pm |
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Bob,
What do you do with a coin that has a blob or crack ?
David
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garylcsrVeteran Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:31 pm |
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Bob i have seen that same die crack on another site i use now and then. i think it is a 4-5 step break. one of the guys has all of the steps in a progression set. very cool set.
let me know when you want to get rid of one
Gary
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DickExpert Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:57 pm |
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DAvid, I'll second that. this might give you a clue:
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RhubarbSenior Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:50 pm |
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I would say 500,000 coin's before the die broke. Don't know for sure.
David
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walkingdudeVeteran Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:02 pm |
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[quote="Bob P"]Here's something you don't see every day. I got a roll of 2006P cents and quite a few had large die cracks on the back of the head. However, one of them in the roll (same die) had this monstrous die blob. Seems like within the roll, I got two distinct die stages, but not the one that should have been in between the two. Pretty cool huh?
Looks like poor Lincoln had open brain surgery and they couldn't close the wound.
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garylcsrVeteran Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:40 pm |
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lol Funny the other guy that has the progression set calls it " proof that Abe was shot in the back of the head)
if the shoe fits
Gary
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Bob PSite Admin
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:44 am |
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I have another two rolls from the same batch. I will see what kind of progression dies I can find of this one. I know that I have at least 2, maybe 3 of this progression. In addition, it is a minor doubled die obverse with an extra thick TY of LIBERTY. I saw this one last year and may have kept some of those coins too. I'll just hold onto them as a conversation piece. If I find more of this particular one, I will offer them up for folks who want one.
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garylcsrVeteran Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:22 pm |
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Bob I think that there are four different coins in this progression but i could be wrong. i will look up the post on it later.
Gary
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DickExpert Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:06 pm |
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Bob, You can put me down for one of those, HUGE die cracks. You have seen some of my "pets".
Dick
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Bob PSite Admin
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:47 pm |
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Well,
I finished going through the 2 rolls, and was actually amazed at the range of die states for the subject coin. Out of those two rolls, I found 5 verifiable die stages, and here they are:
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garylcsrVeteran Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:40 pm |
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DickExpert Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:42 pm |
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Bob, if you have enough for a third set, I'd be interested, as well. I'm assuming younwant to keep one set for yourself.
Dick
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RhubarbSenior Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:20 pm |
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Bob,
Can you explain Die Stages? I'm assuming your talking about EDS, MDS LDS....etc..... Is this Correct?
Then they change Die's. I'm trying to read between the line's without a definate explanation.
David
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Bob PSite Admin
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:48 pm |
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David,
Die stages can best be explained as the period between strikings using the same die, that something verifiable happens to the coin struck. This is different than die state which is normally early, middle and late. The coins I pictured would be a great example of die stages. The first one shows just a die crack. The more coins that are struck, the worse the crack gets until eventually, the die breaks or is retired. If you can identify this specific die by markers, there are earlier die stages, and maybe later ones.
I have a die progression series of a BIE cent that includes 11 different stages.
For those of you who wanted some of these dies, I apologize, but all have been given away already except for the one set I have. If I find any more, I will let you know.
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