Neat 43-D DDO!!!

eagames · Expert Member

This must be one of the best 43 DDOs out there. Most of the others are very weak or just eyelids.
Bought it for cheap, couldn't resist. It looks like about MS64 and very original.

It has that typical ghosting on the date that many steel cents have (not related to the DDO).

It has the right makers and I'm convinced it's the listed Coneca die 8. It's nice when the doubling is bold and the markers are easy to see so you can be sure which variety it is Wink

coop · Expert Member

SWEET! I like the "IN" the best for doubling.

Bob P · Site Admin

That is a very nice DDO Ed. I can't say for sure if the attribution is correct though.

Steven · Expert Member

Nice one Ed.

eagames · Expert Member

They list the marker as "Die crack lower lapel to rim – MDS" which seems to match.

Never can be totaly sure without a picture!!!!
Do you think it could be another?

coop · Expert Member

Ed: You can never be sure without an image of a marker. It kind of like saying a die crack on # 12 column. Probably 1/2 of the dies for 1960 would match that. So I would see if Bob is willing to Photo it. It looks VERY good to me.

Bob P · Site Admin

I would indeed be willing to photograph it and add it to the site. As far as cross referencing it, it is about impossible with CONECAs generalized descriptions and marker info.

coppercoins · Site Admin

I think I have one of those around here somewhere. I know I've seen it before, got one of them in a coin shop in Fort Worth, TX. Don't ask me to find it this month, though.

murphy · Senior Member

Very cool coin Ed! Cool

wavysteps2003 · Expert Member

Just to give you a bit more information. You pointed to the notch on the lower left of the B in LIBERTY, indicating that this may be part of that doubled die. Actually, if you look at all Lincoln cents, from 1909 to 1956, you will see the same notch. You will also see (it is on your die as well) one on the left top of the E in LIBERTY. This may have occurred when the image was transfered from the galvano by the reduction lathe, to the first master hub, in 1909.

For the next 45 years, these two notches can be seen for the Mint transfered that doubling to the new master hub each year. In 1956, the word LIBERTY was re-engraved and that doubling corrected.

Just one of the little oddities of the Lincoln cent.

BJ Neff

eagames · Expert Member

BJ,

Yes that's true, I shouldn't arrow to that notch on the bottom left side of B, I agree that it's on Lincolns of the years you noted. I didn't know they stopped in 56 but that's an interesting point.

One of those strange things that we need to note so we don't get happy when we see them. I think there's similar master doubling on the W of we on many coins (maybe all) in the same years right?

The arrow on the lower center of the B showing the division line across the lower B (and other letters) is part of the double die.

Sort of a nice one because the doubling on this DDO shows up in many places Smile

wavysteps2003 · Expert Member

The doubling on WE was some sort of master die to master hub doubling, or it could have been master hub to mastrer die doubling. It began in 1918 and lasted to 1959 or the end of the wheat cent. Actually, both sides had notching at the top, but over the years, the left side blended in with the diagonal bar, however, the right side always appeared, although sometimes weak.

bJ Neff