1984 verses 1984D

[lucky2]

A Question for everyone. Why is the 1984 Philidelphia mint Lincoln Rolls that could have Double Ear selling for 5 dollars a Roll and the 1984D Mint rolls selling for 20 dollars a Roll? Does 3 million in mintage mean that much on modern coins like this?~lucky2

[eagames]

Some memorial rolls are harder to find than others and get better prices, it might have nothing to do with mintage. It's based on what was or wasn't saved in unc rolls, bags, boxes. The 86-p and 86-d get high prices. Having possible ddos maybe only raises the price slightly for 84-p plus those price lists don't differentiate between OBW and tubed rolls, OBW 84-p rolls might get more than the list price from variety hunters or less if it's in a tube and searched.

In 84-p there's several nice ddos other than the ear.

In 84-d there's a ddo that gets less attention than they should.
Here's 84-d die 1 (FS-039) (1DO-001)...

[lucky2]

Yes I know about the 1984D DDO but the 1984 has one also and the Double Ear but the prices for the 1984D are considerably higher than the P mint. It makes no sence to me.~lucky2

[eagames]

Ignoring ddos, it's based on what was or wasn't saved in unc rolls, bags, boxes. Mintage might not matter if certain years few unc rolls were saved. Many people put together unc sets or unc roll sets and drive the prices up. If you watch price guides over recent years 84p, 84d, 86, 86d, 88p, 88d unc cent rolls have changed a lot every year. Back around 99 the 84-d was already way up at $11 but since then 86 rolls went crazy too. Some people say 86 was high because it's a low mintage for mint sets and the sets cost a lot (so dealers cut less open) but I never believed that since 82 and 83 had no mint sets and 82-83 unc rolls are worth less than 86.

[Dick]

ED, I can't answer your question with any certanty, other than to say taking the case of the late '82, and early '83, thru '86, the condition had a lot to do with it. I don't think the fact that no Proof sets were made in '82, and '83, had much to do with it. The mintages of the Proof, and also Mint sets, (until later years when the mintages have been so high), have, or had that much effect on the scaricity of the rolls.
Now about the diferencial in prices west, to east, maybe it is because it is so far "out QWest" that the cost is getting higher, due to the cost of the gasoline required to transport them, ALL the way, "back East!
Dick

[lucky2]

Thanks Dick, that sounds bette than my explination that someone has been sneeking in to my cave to find out what i don't have and raising the world prices on that and lowering the prices on what I have. LOL~lucky2

[eagames]

Dick,

You're right about condition, anything but nice spotless uncs from those years has no value.

In 82 and 83 they did make proof sets.

But in 82 and 83 they did not make mint sets.
(the uncirculated sets not proof sets)

The only unc sets for 82 and 83 are mint sov sets which were soveneir sets you could get if you took the mint tour in those years and they go for high prices.

[Dick]

ED, you're right. I was thinking that there were none made, but yes, the proof sets were made, and the Mint sets were made with a bronze medal in them, sold for about $4.00, in the gift shops in the area, and now worth many trimes that! I haven't checked on either of the sets, as I have stopped buying them, other than the annual proof clad, silver, and the states sets, in silver, and clad. I don't have any idea as to what I have, niow. One of these days, I'm going to have to have a look at them under the scope. Might be interesting! They got to be too much money for the little that I got in exchange. The ratio, in the cents area, is much more. That I can handle!
Dick

[coppercoins]

Better than 90% of the time roll prices have nothing at all to do with die varieties. Some of the neatest RPMs in the Lincoln cent series can be found in 1960D LD rolls, but these rolls often sell for a dollar each. 1965, 1967, and 1969 are nearly void of die varieties, yet these sell for $3 or more. It's a simple matter of what was saved and what's out there now.

[Dick]

Thanks, Chuck, for that tidbit of info. I just received a roll of '60-D. Don't know yet if it is LD, or SM.D Enjoy your Sunday! You have earned it!
Dick