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1958/7 1c Lincoln Cent
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:24 am Reply with quote

Does anyone have a close up image of the once reported 1958/7 1c Lincoln Cent? The consensus is now that it was the result of a die gouge or scratch on a master die. I would like to see what all the talk was about. Below, is was is posted on this web site for 1958.

"This date also contains an anomoly that was originally reported as a design hub doubled overdate from a master die, but has since been found to be a die gouge or scratch on a master die. It is generally reported as a 1958/7 overdate, but is not so. It is listed in older guides, but has since been discounted by every known expert in the business. It is not listed in any guide printed since 1990. Dr. Sol Taylor reports in his guide, The Standard Guide to the Lincoln Cent, fourth edition, page 174 : "The 1958/7 overdates reported in Breen and first described by Alan Herbert in 1978 have been disproved by experts in error coinage and is not recognized by CONECA, thus no longer listed in this edition....The 1958D/7 was also disproved and no longer listed in error publications." "

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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:10 am Reply with quote

I hoped that someone would provide me an image of the so called Lincoln Cent 1958/7 or 1958/7-D DDO Overdate. My research is in need of some examples.

I found is one (1958/7-D 1c) in an eBay auction a while back. Notice the notch lines outside at the right upper loop, and the line inside the upper loop. On this, I would agree with current thought that these are die scratchs, and probably from a working hub up to a master die.



Here is another lesser quality image I found on eBay. In this image the "8" is rolled horizontal to its right, and we can see the line in the upper loop of the "8" again.



So, is this what all the hype and talk was about "back in the day"? Does anyone have a coin or images to show there might be more to it than this - that would cause others to go so far as to have a listing for a 1958/7-D or Philly Mint DDO Overdate ?

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:44 am Reply with quote

As far as I know what you are showing is all that the anomaly is. A die gouge that shows at the top right corner of the 8 and inside the 8 as a lathe gouge or scratch. Breen assumed it was a 7 and everything went fron there.

The marks parallel the rim and do not match the size or shape of a 7. That was enough to fully convince me.

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