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carlbAdvanced Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:02 pm |
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In both issues of Looking Through Lincoln Cents there is a reference to an article on this forum about the 55 double die. It is repeated in both issues and is supposed to be completely compied from this forum.
WHERE IS IT? I've been looking for days. So where is this article????????????????///
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:18 pm |
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carlbAdvanced Member
Posts: 166 Joined: 02 May 2005 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:12 pm |
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OK, OK. The first one is the only one I wanted. I have both coppercoins books but not sure how to enlarge pages when copying on my printer. I figured if I print it out from this web site it would be full pages. I am going to a coin show Sunday. A dealer at last Sunday's coin show showed me a 1955 Lincoln Double Die in about MS62 and very Red for $1,650.00. It is raw, not slabbed. However, since I've purchased many coins from him in the past he said I could have it for $1,350.00. Now I normally trust him since he is a rather large dealer with usually 5 tables at shows. Has a web site, own coin store, sells at coin shows all over the place. Like I said I normally trust him but a raw coin that Chuck has noted in his books as a popular one to be faked I thought I'd just make a copy of that article and take it with me this weekend. sdI was right. The pages came out full size. Great for this weekend.
Again, thanks for the information. And thanks to coppercoins for the great books.
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coopExpert Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:39 pm |
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Carl: You might copy the article and add the saved text to a microsoft word program. You can enlarge the print size and print a copy from there on your home computer. Just takes seconds. Hightlight the part of the article you want and copy it and paste on a document. Enlarge and print. That's it. You can even copy images to a word page and print them there. You just can't open images fromword to Photoshop. All you get is the script page there.
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GarryNExpert Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:02 pm |
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There is also a die line on the reverse that starts on the right side of the horizontal line of the T in ONE CENT. It continues down more than half way down the vertical line of the T. That would be difficult to recreate. But also sometimes it is difficult to see on a genuine coin.
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:10 pm |
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At that price I'd be careful, it's much lower than the market price.
Even a 62 RB should be about 2.7K. A 62 RD maybe 4-5K.
On top of looking for it being genuine I'd be looking to see if it's cleaned or re-colored or wizzed. That's very common on 55 DDOs and those ones sell for the price you described. If the coin is raw and a bargain price be careful unless you don't mind getting one that will get body bagged or noted as damaged on the holder. (still could be a nice coin at that price even with those problems if that's what you want)
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coopExpert Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:14 pm |
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It may have been sent in to be attributed and was denied because of what Ed mentioned about cleaning/disturbing the surface. Not calling the guy a crook, but it may have been what the seller thought it was? Always good to take good look before leaping.
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carlbAdvanced Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:08 pm |
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| coop wrote: |
| Carl: You might copy the article and add the saved text to a microsoft word program. You can enlarge the print size and print a copy from there on your home computer. Just takes seconds. Hightlight the part of the article you want and copy it and paste on a document. Enlarge and print. That's it. You can even copy images to a word page and print them there. You just can't open images fromword to Photoshop. All you get is the script page there. |
LIke most things when you get older, think about it to late. Actually as I was making that previous post I was printing it our from the print thing at the upper left of my screen. I was able to adjust the borders and put in on high quality and I think it came out better than the books. Thru I could have saved it to Word but why? I have the both books so can look it up when I want in the book.
I know this price sounds a little on the very low side. However, this dealer is at all the shows in the area all the time. We have 3 coin shows a month around here and he is always there. I've known him for many, many years and I don't think he would take a chance on loosing any steady customers with a problem coin. He actually left the ANA show in Milwaukee so as to not miss his regular customers here at the Countryside, Il show.
I still want to take that article with. It's not that I don't trust his judgement, he just may not know if it's real. It is not distinned to be slabbed anyway. Will go in set #1 of 10 sets of Lincolns.
Again, thanks for all the help and information.
I'll let you all know how it turns out after this Sunday's show.
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carlbAdvanced Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:07 pm |
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Just came back from my favorite coin show. Purchased the 55 Double Die. Told my friendly dealer it appeared to be cleaned. I showed him copies of the articles I copied from this web site. He said he didn't think so but to satisfy me he dropped the price again to $1,300. It is for sure real. He double checked it, I triple checked it, another dealer I know checked it and all agree it is about AU58 to MS62. Slight scratch marks on the obverse also warranted a reduction in price. I purchased a few other coins since this one was much less than I originally figured. Some Merc Dimes, a few Walking halves, several other Cents, a few Buffalo Nickels. None to valuable, but nice.
I took several photos of the 55 Double Die and put into my computer. I then realized one more reason I seldom take photos of coins. Could not figure out how to post the photos. I read a post asking the same question. Saw gibberish that I have absolutely no idea of what is being said. Things about http:// or [IMG] or a photobucket thing. No idea of what any of that stuff is and don't plan on going back to school to find out. Way to old. Sure wish I could post a photo or two.
Any suggestions for an old man with little computer savy?????
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:18 pm |
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Sounds like you did well. At that price even if it was lightly cleaned it still should be worth what you paid.
If you want to try to post your image here's the basics:
Take your photos. Go to photobucket.com and sign up for a free account. Then it will let you upload your photos. To post one there's several ways but for me the easiest way is after you load the image you will see 4 boxes below the image (on the photobucket screen) with different types of liks to the image. If you copy the bottom link it already has the [IMG] and http stuff in the link so you don't need to add it, just paste that link into your post and it should work. Just ask in this thread if you have a question.
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coopExpert Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:42 pm |
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Carl: I might add one thing to Ed's message. Name your files so you can find them easily. If you have the image number (IE) MVC-001 and have a second image MVC-02. After a few numbers the identy of which coin is forgotten. So if you were taking images of your 1955 DDO, you could save it as 1955P-1DO-001 or 1955-P DDO. This would make finding it a lot easier on your computer and your website. You might even add a letter to indicate there are more than one photo of the designatted coin. So you might have 1955P-1DO-001a or what ever you would choose. The site does that with their 11,000+ images. So you can tell what the file name stands for which coin. Hope this makes sense?
Something else I think omitted was the tag [img] choice appears on the message window. If you have just the address you may choose to use the button for image:address:/image. By clicking the button after the address it adds the close tag. But I always add an "Enter" afterwards to make the image come after my message and not extend the screen beside my message. These make the image fit better.
Size of image should not exceed the width of 800 pixels. I usually make them 600 pixels wide and can be any height.
The image will make the screen larger and you have to scroll along the bottom to read. So keeping the images in the 600-800 range this is advoid. On other forums it adjusts the size of the image to fit automatically. But not so here. Hope this helps.
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carlbAdvanced Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:57 pm |
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Again, this is why I don't take photos of coins. Maybe to old or someone out there hates me but..........
I went to this thing called photbucket.com
I spent a lot of time signing up because it kept telling to change things so I finally just made up a lot of stuff and it took that.
I found where it said to upload my photos. I did the browse thing and choose 4 photos of the 1955 Double Die of mine. I did as suggested and gave each one a name of 1955DBL-01, -02, etc. Each time it did something and when finally done, I found at the bottom the 4 photos. Below each was 4 things that made little sence to me.
email & IM http://s232.photobuck
Direct Link http://i232.photobuck
HTML.TAG http://photo
IMG code [IMG]http://i232.phot
It obviously appears that whatever this all means, something is missing at the end. Still with this info, I am lost. None of this makes any sence. Don't know what to do with it now.
The names I gave are not shown. The names in my computer are not shown. I'm lost.
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carlbAdvanced Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:04 pm |
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After hours of frustrations with all this I sure hope this works. If not, it is the last photo of a coin I ever take.
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carlbAdvanced Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:07 pm |
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Ooops. Forgot. Anyone let me know what you think of this coin. Colors may be a little off. I did the photos in my basement, on the washing machine, one 2 lamp flourescent overhead. Forgot to photo the reverse but it is a lot better than the obverse. colors are much more original looking than shown due to poor lighting, irritated hands, old and tired.
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:06 pm |
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Great you figured out the pictures and your pics are good too.
I'd say it looks real and had an old cleaning. Worth about what you paid. (I haven't recently seen one for less)
It's a nice coin for an albumn and as an example of the big DDO.
The important thing is if you like it and it fits your set.
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