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CPMember
Posts: 59 Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Location: US
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:52 pm |
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This is a coin I just can not get a good pic of.! I have taken over 200 shots & still haven't got the pics Im looking for..
It has defenitely tought me that all coins can not be photographed the same way.! Some are obviously much tougher than others.. I believe its a lighting problem but??.. Anyhow, can anyone tell if this is a DDO from these terrible pics.?
Thanks,CP
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Bob PSite Admin
Posts: 3482 Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Niceville, Florida
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:19 pm |
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I can't tell for sure. I do see some mechanical doubling on the 2 of the date though. I don't see any notching or extra thickness that might indicate a doubled die.
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walkingdudeVeteran Member
Posts: 251 Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Location: Felton, De
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:21 pm |
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Looks like the ones I have which u close its only md.
Did they use the same reverse die for all the 82's, I swear some of the large and small date look alike?
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CPMember
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:13 pm |
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Bob, I thought the L and the I of liberty & the O and D of God showed a little extra thickness, but after looking at several 82's thats not uncommen.! the 82's just seem to have wider devices than most the other 80's lincolns.?? I need to sort my coins by date & hunt them that way as well.! Beginners Blunder Thanks for setting me straight..
Walkingdude..
I think they are all the same, but im not 100% positive.! I do know that 1980 - 1992 business strikes are all wide AM or have been in my very limmited experiance. Maybe Bob will give you a definite answer, I have really just learned enough "so far" to get myself hooked
CP
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coopExpert Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:05 am |
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2001, 02, 03 have wider letters on the obverse of the Cent. You think you have something, but then realise that is the way all of the look.
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eagamesExpert Member
Posts: 3013 Joined: 15 Nov 2005
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:52 pm |
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Coop,
Every time I look at a 2001 I think it's a DDO until I look at another and they all have the wide date and lettering.
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CPMember
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:02 pm |
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That big ol date on the '73's always makes me look twice..
As many as I have double checked, I shouldn't have any trouble finding the '73 D 1DO-001 if eye ever get to lay eyes on it that is..
CP
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Bob PSite Admin
Posts: 3482 Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Niceville, Florida
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:14 pm |
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CP...The early 8os cents did seem to show what appeared to be extra thickness, but as the die wore, the devices got thicker. However, there is a very nice class 6 doubled die obverse for 1982P. It is a Large Date Copper, and is on the site as 1982P-1DO-001. A good pick-up point for extra thickness in this year was the L and I of LIBERTY. Note how much wider the vertical bars are versus the horizontal bars. The rest of the motto also shows some nice extra thickness.
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CPMember
Posts: 59 Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Location: US
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:54 pm |
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Bob,
Whats strange about this to me, is there is no 82 zinc in this variety.! It would seem logical that it does exsist..
Thanks,CP.
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:54 pm |
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It's possible that a few dies got used for multiple types but it might not have happened with the DDO varieties.
Often people start with the mindset that dies last a long time, they start the year new and age durring the years use. But the reality is that die life is much shorter, days or weeks then they get replaced. There are hundreds or thousands of dies used each year and they get swapped out as the dies wear out.
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coppercoinsSite Admin
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:54 pm |
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The mints likely changed over planchet types quickly - one batch of coins to the next. It's likely they didn't change the dies as soon as they changed metal types, so any variety that exists in one metal type could exist in the other. It is unlikely, however.
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CPMember
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:05 am |
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Great info.! Wonder what the coin in zinc would value?
BTW,I was under the impression the dies lasted longer.! Was the old copper plachets easier on the dies allowing more life/possibly a longer run of ddo's to be produced?
Thanks,CP
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