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1956 D/D/S ?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:17 pm Reply with quote

I am assuming this is not for real but since he pictures the ANACS holder I was hesitant to just dismiss it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1956-LINCOLN-1-CENT-D-D-S-ANACS-MS-65_W0QQitemZ180175172211QQihZ008QQcategoryZ524QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Is it authentic?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:30 pm Reply with quote

I dont understand the quesiton. Are you asking whether or not we believe that the seller does not actually have the coin, and is trying to scam somone of their money, or whether or not the variety truly exists?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:32 pm Reply with quote

Does this variety exist?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:14 pm Reply with quote

Yes no and sort of LOL!!!

If it's this one I don't see it listed as a D/D plus S but it was listed as a D and S then it seems Coneca de-listed it.

Delisted stuff like this or the well known 80 D/S still are collectable even after being de-listed. In some cases like this one some experts may still say it is what they thought (and it might be) and some collectors might want an example anyway listed or not.

(this is what I think it is anyway but who knows)

http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/diestate.php?date=1956&die_id=1956d1om001&die_state=eds

http://www.conecaonline.org/content/lincolnrpms19561957.html

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:39 am Reply with quote

I would not touch it with a 30 foot pole Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

James Wiles just does not de-list a variety on a whim, he does so with good cause. In this case, after reading what he has said, I agree with his assessment.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:15 am Reply with quote

wow, I was not aware that Coneca delisted the 1956 D/S OMM 1
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:31 pm Reply with quote

Oh.... it also could have been another variety.
This one that had the supposed S that looked like a horn on the D and it was listed as a D/D/S.

I never saw this one called OMM-1 like the one in the ebay listing, it was always called WOMM-1 (From John Wexlers listings) and is not the same as OMM-1.

1956-d/d/s WOMM-001

Anyone know if it was also delisted?
I remember in the past people said that in some states it showed most of the S but I don't see it listed.

Seems like some of the OMMs are vanishing Surprised

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:39 pm Reply with quote

We have it listed on coppercoins as 1956D-1M-002. We have pictures of an MDS and LDS specimen. It shows the S better the later it gets in die state. CONECA lists it as RPM-012 as they must still believe it is strictly an RPM. not an OMM. You can view it here:

http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/diestate.php?date=1956&die_id=1956d1om002&die_state=lds

This one has not been delisted by any of those that call it an OMM.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:24 pm Reply with quote

Kinda looks to be D/D/S on this 1956D/S but the repunching of the D may be to minor to take into consideration for listing that way.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:04 pm Reply with quote

See if this image help?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:13 pm Reply with quote

Great pics!

The one Steven and the one Coop listed are both 1M-002 RPM-12 WOMM-001 right?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:20 pm Reply with quote

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Ed asked:
The one Steven and the one Coop listed are 1M-002 RPM-12 right?


Mostly correct. The listing on coppercoins is 1956D-1OM-002 and RPM # 12. Bob's post with the listing shows that they are the same. The difference on Stephen's coin and mine is different die states. His doesn't show the strong scratches that my coin shows. His may be earlier or later than mine. Just didn't look that closely to see.

ADDED: His is earlier than my coin. appears to be MDS, mine LDS from what I can see. The VLDS is the one that show the whole S. With the OM-001 debunked, I'm not so sure on this one either. But till then it will remain as part of my collection. The OM-001 remains as a memorbillia coin now that it's been debunked.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:23 pm Reply with quote

I havee to go along with BJ, It just don't look right, especially from the photos in the slab". In fact, Ihave gotten to the point that "nothing looks right" on ebay! Too many times burned.
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