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daggitSenior Member
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Is this typical thickness for this date, seems like somethings different about this one.
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daggitSenior Member
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| Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:49 am |
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daggitSenior Member
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| Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:51 am |
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Getting a QX5 for Christmas  sorry bout the pics 
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 DickExpert Member
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| Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:13 am |
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Way to go, Daggit! Hit the go switch, before I was ready. Nice photos, but.... I can't decide if there is MD , or not, on the date. No decision on liberty.
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 eagamesExpert Member
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Looks like MD. Liberty looks shelf like and on the date you can see where the top of the 5s normal image was reduced by the MD shearing into the top of it.
Looks like a coin that when you first see the date it looks like a DDO but isn't.
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daggitSenior Member
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| Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:39 pm |
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Geez you guy's I was getting all exited when I saw this one  Thanks anyway...truth hurts 
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 coopExpert Member
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| Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:23 pm |
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I would hold onto it for mow. You would hate to find out later it was something unknown now. I do this so I don't have to kick myself later on for not saving it.
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wavysteps2003Expert Member
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:49 am |
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Hi Daggit - I can see what has you a bit excited. It does look like division lines on some of the letters in LIBERTY.
Okay, one thing to remember when looking at a doubled die. The offset between the primary image and the secondary image can be in either one or two adjacent diections; example, the secondary image is to the northwest or southeast, however, it can not be to the north / south or east / west. If you look carefully at the E of LIBERTY, you will notice that the "division" lines have a seperation to the west, north and south. So, this is not a doubled die. If you look at the upper loop of the B and the R, you will see that the "division" line is a complete circle around both those loops. However, the Y, even though it does not have extra thickness, could easily be mistaken for a doubled die since it does have a division line and a notch on the right arm.
Hope that this helps.
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 RussellhomeVeteran Member
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| Getting a QX5 for Christmas sorry bout the pics |
I have the QX3 -- the older model of the computer microscope. It took a little while to figure out how best to use it, but now that I have it down, it is my main tool I use for searching.
Some tips...
1) The best overall magnification to use is 60x. I use 200x occationally, when I whet to check out of something is a knotch or a contact mark and 10x on my unit can't ever seem to get a good focus. At 10x a loop and a lamp works better.
2) The internal lamp is not enough. You will be dissapointed with the results if you don't add some external light source. I have a cheap, adjustable desk lamp that I move around the microscope to get the image to look better. Sometimes, I turn off the internal lamp and use external light only. Here are some examples:
Above, I used the internal light only on this column doubled 2006 cent.
This is the same coin with both internal and external light sources.
And finally, this photo was done using external light only.
3) Just like with a camera, light angles can make all the difference in seeing something or missing something. The first photo below shows clear knotching and separation lines. The photo 2nd photo below is the same coin rotated about 100 degrees. So if you think you see something, rotate the coin and see what you get from a different angle.
4) Following the tips of a few other DV hunters who use this type of microscope, I made a few modifications to my QX3 to get better results and make it easier to use.
a) I taped a small thin piece of white plastic over the internal light to defuse the light.
b) The round base platform is too small to support proof sets and mint sets without tipping or falling off. So I taped a 4" X 6" piece of heavy cardboard onto the base so it will support these larger items hands-free.
c) I filed down the blue plastic shield at the bottom of the microscope so that I could let in more external light. Plus, some proof set coins are inset so deep, you cannot get focus and filing down the shield just a few millimeters gives it enough clearance to acheive focus.
5) And finally, if you score a nice find and want to use the microscope to take a photo -- load the exported photo in some graphics program (like Photoshop or PhotoPaint) to tweak the color and contrast. The photos will not be as nice as what can be acheived with a good closeup from a normal camera -- but sometimes they come pretty close.
I see really bad photos on eBay all the time that are taken with the QX3 or QX5. With a little horsing around and trying different lighting techniques, you can get much better results that simply using what you get from the internal light only.
And BTW - your closeup photos above are really not bad. With a little work on lighting, your camera seems to be capable of taking nice macro closeups.
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daggitSenior Member
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:37 pm |
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| wavysteps2003 wrote: |
Hi Daggit - I can see what has you a bit excited. It does look like division lines on some of the letters in LIBERTY.
Okay, one thing to remember when looking at a doubled die. The offset between the primary image and the secondary image can be in either one or two adjacent diections; example, the secondary image is to the northwest or southeast, however, it can not be to the north / south or east / west. If you look carefully at the E of LIBERTY, you will notice that the "division" lines have a seperation to the west, north and south. So, this is not a doubled die. If you look at the upper loop of the B and the R, you will see that the "division" line is a complete circle around both those loops. However, the Y, even though it does not have extra thickness, could easily be mistaken for a doubled die since it does have a division line and a notch on the right arm.
Hope that this helps.
BJ Neff |
Thanks for the explanation wavysteps, I do better with left and right than North, South directions  However I do understand what you are saying. Point of interest ...when I hold the cent on certain angles I can see what looks to be trails but my camera can't capture the image without a blurring effect. I will hang on to this one and try to get better images when I get the microscope.
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daggitSenior Member
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:47 pm |
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Ken, thank you very much for the explanations it will be very helpful. Right now I attempt to take photo's by attaching the loupe right to the lens of my camera. I taped a circular piece of cardboard around the end of my loupe and when the lens pops out I just slip it over the end. After that I adjust the macro setting till I come up with best possible shot. Works for now...at least I get a somewhat viewable image, with just getting off of compensation due to a neck injury finances haven't permitted me to get a scope. Taking the pics is sometimes frustrating when I can't get the image to present what I am seeing (or think I'm seeing )
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daggitSenior Member
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:06 pm |
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Wavysteps this is one shot of what looks to be trails but of course maybe not. I'm not sure of defining marks for trails.This is the same 2005 cent.
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wavysteps2003Expert Member
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Daggit - That is trails. If you would, maybe after the holidays, you can send it down to me and we will get it filed into my system.
While I do have an obverse trail die for 2005, it is not like that one, so it will be new.
Thanks Daggit for think of me.
BJ Neff
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daggitSenior Member
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| Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:36 pm |
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| wavysteps2003 wrote: |
Daggit - That is trails. If you would, maybe after the holidays, you can send it down to me and we will get it filed into my system.
While I do have an obverse trail die for 2005, it is not like that one, so it will be new.
Thanks Daggit for think of me.
BJ Neff |
Sure more than happy to, I can send it whenever you like just pm your address. There is more trails than whats pictured, at least you would get better photos
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daggitSenior Member
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:20 pm |
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I managed another shot of the date and looks like trails there also.
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