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2007D James Madison $ Error?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:05 pm Reply with quote

What Do You Think? Dropped edge letter maybe. I have some with the letter "O" as extra letter on the edge but this is the first I have seen with edge lettering on the reverse or obverse.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:19 pm Reply with quote

Steven,

Could the extra o be from the rim of a coin hitting it and the incuse rim lettering strikes a raised o on the other coin?

I have seen silver coins with a dent from edge reeding on the obv or rev from bag hits from other coins so maybe edge lettering on big coins can do the same thing.

From looking at it does this seem likely? Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:34 pm Reply with quote

After posting the same thought came to mind. I don't know. I would have thought that there would have been more than what is there to indicate a bag mark. I have been trying to get some more photos a little closer to look at. Will post in a bit. You are probably right about the hit though rather than a dropped letter.
In searchin gthe roll this was in I was hopeing to find another to taek the bag mark theory out but to no avail.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:46 pm Reply with quote

Well, I don't think my close up helps to answer the question. I think I will also have to lean toward a bag make as well. I think I will set it back though as an oddity for reference.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:50 pm Reply with quote

Steven, and ED, after reading your posts,I went to higher man. top check, and the idea came to me that if you can get close enough to the letter, to see if there is a very small flattened area on theedge of the total impression, you night ptovr the "hit" theory. The lower portion seems to have a bit of a flattened area.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:52 pm Reply with quote

Sure looks like a classic dropped letter to me.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:19 pm Reply with quote

Looking at the light reflection it looks like the O or 0 is pressed into the coin? If it is raised it couldn't be from the edge as it would have raised with the incuse letters on the rim. It coulde have been pressed and transfered from another obverse or be a dropped letter like Bob said. Was it in a OBW or did it come from circulation? The pressed area from another coin looks possible as the area on the arm looks flattened. But you would know best as you have the coin. Any other areas of contact?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:04 pm Reply with quote

coop,
I checked several others from the same origional roll and the flattness of the arm looks the same in that area. The O is does not appear to be raised but rather the metal around and at the center of the O looks pressed in. Nothing else noted on the coin.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 8:29 pm Reply with quote

Intresting mark at 3:00 hooking North and extending inside of the O/0? Seems that if the coin was pressed with another coin this would have been totally wiped out. Seems like this may have come from the date which may have been on the obverse side. But it could have dropped and fallen before you coin. Looks like it could be a dropped letter. I'm always the skeptic. Wink Wink Wink
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