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JRoccoVeteran Member
Posts: 418 Joined: 08 Oct 2004
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:00 pm |
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This is a 1992 D Jeff. I do not see anything on the CONECA site regarding this coin, but it sure looks like something is going on here. This is a LDS coin as evident by the flow lines...Is that all I am seeing?
Help anyone?
_________________ John
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coopExpert Member
Posts: 3402 Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:14 am |
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Depending what you think your see? A few facts.
It can't be a D/D RPM, as the last RPMs added to coins was the 1989-D or S Coins. Since then the mint mark is part of the hubbing process. All the mint marks will be in the same location from coins made with the same master die. So with that fact your 1992-D Nickel would fall into the hubbed mint mark section. So your coin can't be a RPM. I'm guessing it is Die wear or a gouge. Just a wierd location for the mark. It makes you think it is something when it is just a die state for your coin. VLDS coins have weird stuff appear on them. Nickel making the planchets harder than cents, the dies wear faster than copper planchets. So what do you like with this information on your coin?
_________________ Richard S. Cooper
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JRoccoVeteran Member
Posts: 418 Joined: 08 Oct 2004
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:16 am |
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Hey coop,
How are you?
I sure am aware of what I have been told goes on at our mint.
I am also aware that I was told that the single squeeze method would eliminate ALL chances of any further die varieties---stop looking, give up the hobby, and take our balls and go home. Fortunately, some of us did not do that and lo and behold, we are still finding fantastic die varieties.
As for what I think I see....well that nice large raised area directly under the lower bar of the D sure does look like the lowest protrusion of what an underlying P mint mark would look like. Do you agree?
I am aware that the mint has denied the possibility, but as we have seen- there is wiggle room there. I checked the CONECA site to see if there was a reported Master Die Doubling that possibly effects a large quantity of these, but found nothing. I am not a Jeff collector and living in NY, I don't usually see D mint coins in change so I really have no experience with these, hence my question.
Has anyone seen this before or is this just an obvious example of a well placed gouge/chip or die fatigue?
_________________ John
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mikediamondAdvanced Member
Posts: 191 Joined: 09 Oct 2003 Location: Western Illinois
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:26 am |
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Worn dies sometimes develop a pattern of pitting. I've used the terms "die erosion", "erosion pits", and "blebs" to describe the phenomenon. I would guess that's what we're seeing here.
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DickExpert Member
Posts: 5780 Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Location: Rialto, CA.
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:38 pm |
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That would be my impression, too. Looking at the condition of the "2", and the "D", it is "begining to show its age". A die chip that "Just happens" to look like the real thing, but apparently is not.
Dick
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coppercoinsSite Admin
Posts: 2809 Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Location: Springfield, Missouri.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:54 pm |
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