1963 Jefferson, thick #'s
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TerybleVeteran Member
Posts: 316 Joined: 17 Apr 2008
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:17 am |
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This jumped out at me! Everything thing seems a "fat" Even if it is the norm, it's a nice old coin.
Thanks, Tery
_________________ In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.
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coopExpert Member
Posts: 3402 Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:53 am |
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Tery: On nickels the wear on the dies is stronger and makes them appear wider. But note, no doubling of devices. Even though they are thicker, (which you pointed out) compare them to coins of the same year and sometimes year and mint mark. Then you will not a difference or see the same size of devices. Don't get discouraged, till you check out a second, third coin from that year you can see what happened to coins that year. A couple Of DD's I've found that year were in proofs. Seems like less wear on them as they strike lower numbers of coins per die. But again I will show you what I found.
Note the spread on the outside edges of devices.
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http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/coop49/19635drCent.jpg
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http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/coop49/19635DROf.jpg
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some of the images you can even see tripling on certain areas. If you would take a rubber stamp and make two images as close to each other as possible, then you can see if it is right on or the stamp is doubled. Note where the letters over lap. See how they are wider there? Same thing with the hubbing of older coins which was done several times, I've read somewhere as many as 12 times for the larger dollar coins. So when the hub is not exactly right on the mark or a different hub is used/worn for the next hubbing, the devices are set in a different position thant the prievious hubbing. This is seen as wider/notching on the devices of the completed die. That is what we are looking for. But keep looking, they are out there.
_________________ Richard S. Cooper
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TerybleVeteran Member
Posts: 316 Joined: 17 Apr 2008
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 5:47 pm |
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Call me blind, but some I could not even tell and a couple looked "shelflike" to me. I need much more "eye work". Beautiful perfect coins though! I don't give up, and these are just a small part of my hoard, I have not bought any yet. By the way I spent time in your part of the country and 100+ degrees. Not for me, too dry. I'm a florida humidy girl. If I lived out there I'd probably be out digging for treasures.
Teryble
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coopExpert Member
Posts: 3402 Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 6:37 pm |
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Only in the winter time. In the summer you would become a raisin in no time here. Just starting to get hot now. Its back to find pot holders of hold the sterring wheel. I got a different car and it doesn't have a sterring wheel cover, yet.... Will get on that very soon. Car is going into the shop for a week to fix someone's poor driving and messing up one side of my car. They backed into it and keep damaging it till they were able to get away. #$@%!&&*
The doubling is mostly on the out side edge of the device near the rim. Study the images from time to time and you will see what the image shows. It takes a while to train the eye. You'll get it. I need to redo the images into one collage. They are at least 10 years old now.
_________________ Richard S. Cooper
You may be only one person in the world, but you may also be the world to one person.
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