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aballeinVeteran Member
Posts: 201 Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Location: Hillsboro, OH
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:46 pm |
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die cap or grease? found in a roll, just curious really. reverse is completely normal sorry for the giant pic
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Bob PSite Admin
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:36 am |
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Looks like a whole-lotta-grease Aaron. I think the giveaway is the date not being affected. I am pretty sure that had it been a cap, the entire obverse would have been affected. If I am worng in that respect, I am sure someone will correct me
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GabeSenior Member
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:05 am |
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It looks like a strike thru grease to me. As BobP said, had it been a die cap, the date would have probably been affected.
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aballeinVeteran Member
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:27 pm |
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that was my initial thought too but i think someone on here or somewhere said it could be a die cap when i was explaining it before i had pictures...that is ALOT of grease though ehh?
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JRoccoVeteran Member
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:51 pm |
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Grease is just a catch-all phrase for struck through dirt, metal fragments, grease, oil or any combination of the above.
Another occurrence is struck through goop...an oily blob of grease and dirt almost looking like black tar. This can fall off after striking the coin and leave a common grease filled die look.
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coopExpert Member
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 8:12 am |
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Still a keeper. With that much of a strike through, someone would be interested in it. I find the fields below LIBERTY and above the date the most interesting. That field area is also distorted. I know, just another question on how that could of happened.
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aballeinVeteran Member
Posts: 201 Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Location: Hillsboro, OH
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:54 pm |
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yeah this is turning into one of my more favorite coins, even my wife showed interest in it and she hates my coin habit!
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:53 pm |
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Hmmmmm....
I'm thinking it could have been struck through a capped die but that area near the date was opened up. I mean struck through a capped die but the cap was splitting and opening up in the date area.
Sound possible?
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wavysteps2003Expert Member
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 5:12 pm |
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Late stage die cap that had the portion that would have affected the date broken off.
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Bob PSite Admin
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:16 pm |
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There is also another area under LIBERTY that is unaffected. A late stage die cap is a possibility, but I am still leaning more toward it being a strike through (which is actually what a capped die is) of grease.
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wavysteps2003Expert Member
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:56 pm |
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Bob - Do you see the line going through Lincolns head just about eye level. That is the bottom of the stairs on the memorial building. In early stage die caps, this would have been more pronounced.
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Bob PSite Admin
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 9:12 am |
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I do see the line BJ, but I am afraid I am not experienced enough on error coins to positively identify it as a late die cap. I took a look at a late die cap dime I have here to see if I can find anything that proves it one way or another, but I can't. So, I will definitely yield to the more experienced error coin specialists.
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KurtSSenior Member
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 12:25 pm |
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I like that clean demarcation around the date. Very interesting coin!
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