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n1tot
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:39 pm Reply with quote

That's what I said when I found this, to look at the obverse it looks like a weak strike.................................





When looking at the reverse, the same, except for the raised lines that I tinted and added contrast to on photoshop......



Now here's where it get weired, the edge, the white arrow is pointing to an indent that goes all the way around the coin, the little black arrows are small indents that are evenly spaced around the rim, at first I thought someone screwing round, now I'm not to sure, could be struck with a damaged die in a collar not intended for that coin....................



maybe the resident error pro can shed some light on this, lord knows, I haven't a clue........
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:23 pm Reply with quote

Your coin is an ex-encased coin. It used to have a ring of other metal around it, like a lucky penny. I've seen these on all denominations up to a quarter.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:33 pm Reply with quote

Just a guess before the real experts say Wink

Looks similar to post mint damage on some encased lucky cents.
The raised lines on the rev are probably part of the design of the advertising thing got smashed into it causing those lines.
The lucky encased thing might have had a plate with the hole for a coin then it had metal covers with and opening for the front of the coin to show through. As they crimped it the middle section is in a ring then the coin gets flattened as they crimp it shut making the rim look squeezed in the center and bulged on both edges.

Hope I'm wrong and it's something else.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:34 pm Reply with quote

you beat me to post LOL Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:12 am Reply with quote

I thought those encased coin were press fit into the outer ring of the other metal, you know how much presure it would take to cause to make an indent like that, and press fitting would not make that kind of indent......... Question
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:17 am Reply with quote

Here's an example on the bay, if you look close you can see it covers the rim so it's not a press fit. (I have seen others that are press fit) I've taken a few apart that had 3 layers, a center with a press fit hole then the outer covers go over the rim. When they crimp it shut the coin smashes. Other ones only have one opening so they use the back side to have more space for slogans.

LOL I've seen these with unc indians and old unc cents but almost always the coin is damaged from when they made it.
Pretty sad Crying or Very sad

Here's an example:

http://cgi.ebay.com/LUCKY-COIN-CLUB-MEMBER-1930-ENCASED-PENNY-3065_W0QQitemZ290180752482QQcmdZViewItem

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:16 pm Reply with quote

I might be an oddball, but i have a triple-beam sitting at my penny throne area, on which i weigh almost every suspect anything....
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You are not the only one with a "Back-up" scale. Mine is a small digital that will handle up to 500 grams, and another, slidiong weight type for weighing gold dust, etc. It probably is as old as I am.
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