Error learning post

[eagames]

Here's some errors. If anyone knows the most correct terminology for each let me know. I can describe them but I'm not sure about the "right" terminology for each.

Number 1:
Off center strike that was on top of an already struck coin. The rev has an off center reverse and the obverse has a brockage image of the reverse of the coin it was struck over.

What would the right terminology be



Number 2:
Off center second strike on top of another blank planchet.
The obv has an off center strike, the reverse has brockage from the blank planchet it was on top of in the second strike.

What would the right terminology be



Number 3:
Struck without a collar, it's huge for a cent.
It also has what looks like a tiny clip.

What would the right terminology be



Number 4:
Off center second strike on an already struck coin.

What would the right terminology be



Number 5:
Off center strike.



Number 6:
Double off center strike.
Side A has a partial obverse on both off center strikes.
Side B has a partial reverse on one off center strike but the other off center strike is brockage over a blank planchet with no design. Is this strike from a dual coin press? Is it the right spacing for a dual press "saddle strike"?

What would the right terminology be

[mikediamond]

Here's some errors. If anyone knows the most correct terminology for each let me know. I can describe them but I'm not sure about the "right" terminology for each.

Number 1:
Off center strike that was on top of an already struck coin. The rev has an off center reverse and the obverse has a brockage image of the reverse of the coin it was struck over.

This would be an off-center strike with a first-strike brockage of the reverse design on the obverse face.


Number 2:
Off center second strike on top of another blank planchet.
The obv has an off center strike, the reverse has brockage from the blank planchet it was on top of in the second strike.

Off-center, uniface strike.

Number 3:
Struck without a collar, it's huge for a cent.
It also has what looks like a tiny clip.

Broadstrike, with a tiny indent.

Number 4:
Off center second strike on an already struck coin.

Double strike, the first normal, the second off-center and die-struck on both faces.

Number 5:
Off center strike.

As you say, an off-center strike.

Number 6:
Double off center strike.
Side A has a partial obverse on both off center strikes.
Side B has a partial reverse on one off center strike but the other off center strike is brockage over a blank planchet with no design. Is this strike from a dual coin press? Is it the right spacing for a dual press "saddle strike"?

Double strike, both off-center, one uniface. It's not a saddle strike.

[Dick]

Thank you both for the posting, and terminology definitions. I have a set of these, and some are as thin as a razor! Mine go from a full planchet, to a "very off-center". I'll try to post some images, after returning from the Hospital.
Dick

[eagames]

Mike, Thanks for the right terminolgy

The first that your answers made me understand is what "uniface" means. It seems simple and I'd heard it used but never exactly understood it meant struck over a blank planchet.

Anyone feel free to add more stuff to this post, I think it helps everyone use the right terminology. Lets try to keep adding more that are different instead of more different examples of the same things.

[Dick]

Ed, these might not be visible, butit is all I can do with the new camera, at the moment:

The first three are 1983-P The others are no date, and the one with the bright spot is 82. That is all that is visible. The last is a clean planchet. The first is off-center to the left. All the rest are to the right
Later when I learn to use the camera, I'll post a few others from Mexico, and others. Enjoy. BTW, I did not find these. I got them as a single product, on ebat, for $10.00, right after starting to collect, again.
Dick

[fiddle-fart]

looks like the phases of the moon

[Dick]

Mike, I hadn't thought of that, but, yes it does.
Dick

[nightshade]

and what kind of error would leave a clear field behind a letter or more and is it worth keeping?

[eagames]

Do you mean where a letter is missing? Or maybe a shiny area without flow lines?

Either thing might be caused by grease, either by clogging a letter or making a shiny clear spot in a field where there had been grease on the die.

Probably not worth much but I suggest keeping ones of interest even if they have no big value.

[nightshade]

it is on the back of the dime it say eplurib(shiny field where nothing got struck)unum
its shiny and as flat as the rest of the field of the dime

[coop]

Does it look like this?

Note on the Bottom image the wheat reverse. Do you see where the letters are missing? That is because of the die filled and no forming of those devices.

[Dick]

nightshade, In this case, the shiny one, ( #4 in bottom row, l-r), is the one with the numbers 82 on it the 2 is clear, but the 8 is mangled, due to location. I don't recall if it is on the side, visible, or the other side. It is the only other one with a partial date. The firsr three all are 1983-P. I don't know if it was inbetween the anvil and a second planchet, or not, because the smooth side, (away from the anvil), is very smooth, like the un-struck face of the planchet. There is no indication of the top area of the penthouse, or any letter, from the immediate area, which would be the case if it had jusr been a "pinch-strike. The middle one has "IN GO, qwith only part of the "O" present. I didn't cheeck the reverse to see what might be there. Id there are any letters, it would be from ONE, most likely, and very little of the word, if at all.Hope this helps,
Dick

[Dick]

nightshade, I finallt tied your question, and your dime together, rather than mixing it with my OC strikes. If a letter gets filled up with gunk, grease floor sweepings, etc, to the point that it no longer will make the letter on the planchet, after being struck, it leaves a blank, detail-less spot, or area, with nothing. The value is, 99-44/100-% of the time, is indicated on the coin itself. Now, if you find a coin where the "plug" in the letter, has dropped and is struck into the planchet, it is known as a "dropped letter". They do have a nominal value, depending on the condition. Sorry about trying to "make an 11-cent coin.
Dick

[wavysteps2003]

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