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lucky2Veteran Member
Posts: 222 Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 3:39 pm |
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Bob I think we need a new catagory for the copper coin varieties that I come up with. I say that because I belive that I am half way intelligent and I know that what I have found it totally impossible. I am too embarrased to even tell you the date of the coin due to its impossibility but I will show you a photo from my magic fantasy camera for your thoughts. First impressions please.~lucky2
http://groups.msn.com/VarietyCoins/rkc.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=903
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RobertSenior Member
Posts: 896 Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 4:09 pm |
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You're thinking D over S?
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lucky2Veteran Member
Posts: 222 Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 4:48 pm |
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Robert
I wish. That would be too too much to ask for.~lucky2
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coppercoinsSite Admin
Posts: 2809 Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Location: Springfield, Missouri.
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 5:07 pm |
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How about a date and a shot of the bottoms of the numbers in the date so I can see relative distance.
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lucky2Veteran Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 5:25 pm |
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coppercoinsSite Admin
Posts: 2809 Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Location: Springfield, Missouri.
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 5:30 pm |
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1961D RPM#16, considering it's a 1961, that is...you never provided the date. Please, next time provide a clear photo of the bottoms of the numbers of the date with the RPM in the same frame, and also provide the date. It would also be helpful for you to provide markers you find.
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Bob PSite Admin
Posts: 3482 Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Niceville, Florida
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 5:38 pm |
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Well Robert...Looks like Chuck got to you before I did. He is correct though (of course). It is 1961D RPM #16. By the way...What did YOU think it was
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RobertSenior Member
Posts: 896 Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 6:43 pm |
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I didn't look it up on a book but if Chuck says it's a known variety than it is.
Woulda been cool to have found a discovery coin!
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lucky2Veteran Member
Posts: 222 Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 6:44 pm |
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Bob you know cotton picken well what I wish it was, but wishing in one hand. I knew very well that there was no way it could be what it looks like thats why I put it on Fantasy Island. I saw the 1961D RPM #16 and thought it looked slightly different and couldn't match the pups. I think this is a very LSD. Even at that there seem to be slight differences in the 1 and 9 that I questioned. The odds of this being a D/S and so close but different than the #16 is even dumb to think about. That being said my mind runs in strange circles.~lucky2
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Bob PSite Admin
Posts: 3482 Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Niceville, Florida
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 12:22 pm |
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Oh...OK Robert. I hear ya, but I wanted to have you say it Just a point to consider also, I wouldn't think there there would be any difference in the 1 and 9s of the coins, but I guess there is always the minor possibility. PUPS and markers will definitely vary by die state, and a lot of RPMs themself look different as the die wears. There are some case when the RPM actually looks more pronounced once the die wers out a bit. Anyway, keep on searching. That's the only way you can locate these things on your own other than buying them outright. Good luck!
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lucky2Veteran Member
Posts: 222 Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:56 pm |
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To this point I have pulled out 3/4 of a roll of 1961D RPM 16 and a half roll of Skirted R die breaks from 4 rolls. Now comes the tough part. I have a dozen more rolls of BU 1961D Lincolns in the old hard plastic tubes that shrink around the coins. I can get them out with only damage on one maybe two of them but there has to be a better way. In the past I have heated them, boilled them banged them on the counter, carefully cut the tube off and swore a lot. Will freezing the rolls work? Am I better off selling them on Ebay and letting the next guy worry about it? Any help or ideas would be appreciated on this. Thanks~lucky2
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Bob PSite Admin
Posts: 3482 Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Niceville, Florida
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:32 pm |
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I have had luck removing the coins by scoring the outside of the tube with a utility knife. I goo pretty deep, but do no go all the way through of course, but by making multiple scores around the tube, I have been able to get the first few coins out, then use a pair of needle nose to grasp the top portion of the tube and peeling a strip down. Once you get one to break loose, the other normally follow. Just your luck that you get so frustrated with them, and sell them on Ebay, only to find out it was a tube of keepers! Don't give up Robert. Be persistent with those *&$#*^%# tubes
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lucky2Veteran Member
Posts: 222 Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:57 pm |
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Bob, The old tubes that open on both ends are thin and easy to score and pop it open but those old heavy plastic ones with the slip on cap have kept me busy. I would never sell a roll of Lincolns without searching it. ~lucky2
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lucky2Veteran Member
Posts: 222 Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Location: Texas
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:57 pm |
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Bob
There seem to be many highs and lows in coin searching. One of my highs was when I finished getting the coins out of those stuborn plastic rolls and finished my search of 20 rolls of 1961D Lincolns. Belive it or not I hit a low when I pulled out a drawer and found 9 more rolls of those suckers that I did not know I had. LOL. Now back to the high, searching these rolls will be easier because I have already been through 20 of them and should be able to spot something new very easely. I will let you know later.~lucky2
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Bob PSite Admin
Posts: 3482 Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Niceville, Florida
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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:57 pm |
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Well Robert,
29 rolls of ANYTHING is hard on the eyeballs, but you are correct in that you get to know what to search for. I did get your list, and congrats on a pretty good ratio. If you want to find something in almost every roll you go through, then 1960D is the way to go. I have found a few small date/large date with the RPM in rolls like that.
Continued good luck!
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