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 grnwavdavMember
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Is this a 1865 2 cent Repunched Date?
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 DickExpert Member
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| Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:52 pm |
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From your pictures, I wopuld say yes. I am no expert, but the details are clear enough to say it is. Nice photos, and nice find!
Dick
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I think it's a RPD.
I don't have anything that lists that one but it might be listed someplace.
To help narrow down the variety your coin is a "fancy 5".
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| Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:02 pm |
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If I saw that on an IHC, I'd say it's an RPD.  Nice find!
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grnwavdavMember
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:38 pm |
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| eagames wrote: |
I think it's a RPD.
I don't have anything that lists that one but it might be listed someplace.
To help narrow down the variety your coin is a "fancy 5".
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Did they have fancy 5 varieties on 2 cent pieces?
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eagamesExpert Member
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:26 pm |
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| Did they have fancy 5 varieties on 2 cent pieces? |
Yes they had fancy 5 and normal 5 on 2 cent pieces. This coin is the fancy one. Similar to IHCs. I'm not sure if both types were used on other denomination 1865 coins other than IHC and 2 cent pieces.
Some date types on IHCs are on other coins from the same years. For example 1873 open and close (or closed) 3 is on other denominations, maybe everything except dollars.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:04 pm |
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| Did they have fancy 5 varieties on 2 cent pieces? |
Yes they had fancy 5 and normal 5 on 2 cent pieces. This coin is the fancy one. Similar to IHCs. I'm not sure if both types were used on other denomination 1865 coins other than IHC and 2 cent pieces.
Some date types on IHCs are on other coins from the same years. For example 1873 open and close (or closed) 3 is on other denominations, maybe everything except dollars. |
Thanks for the info Ed!
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I don't know for sure, but there is something regarding the 8 digit on either the two cent coin or the indian head cent that sticks out in my memory as being 'common' - and it has something to do with a tail sticking out of the side of the 8...much like this.
The 5 is definitely repunched, and I agree that it is a fancy 5.
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| ... it has something to do with a tail sticking out of the side of the 8...much like this. |
I cracked open my Snow guide for 1865 and read that the same digit punches were used on the 1 and 2 cent pieces for that year. For the punch using the "plain 5", there is an odd shoulder on the right side of the upper loop of the 8, and a less dramatic defect on the right side of the lower loop. These defects are absent on the fancy 5 punches, so perhaps that's an RPD on the 8 as well?  I could easily be wrong, since I'm not exactly matching obverse dies here.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:09 am |
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That is some interesting information. Thanks everyone for your input.
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DickExpert Member
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:39 am |
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Just for of curiosity's sake, is the "fancy 5" used only in this year, or is it "common" for the fives thruout the series?
Dick
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:37 pm |
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Dick,
I'm not sure about all years but 1875 and 1885 IHCs are plain 5.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:51 pm |
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And the 1859 IHC used a different punch too.
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DickExpert Member
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Looks like we will have to do a bit of digging. In my case, I'll have to get a few, to "dig into"!
Dick
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