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I ahve been repairing water damage to the kitchen cabinetry, and have done little, or nothing, other than lurk for quite some time. The mobile home I live in was plumbed with plastic tubing, which has stood up all these years, However, the small fittings in the runs, are very brittle, and break frequently. And then there is the rats! They chew anything in their way to get to food. We have a dog, and the rats smell his dish, and the other food in the house. There are holes made to allow the tubing to pass thru the flooring to the taucets, and other fixtures. After having stripped down to the bare frame, and renoved the dishwasher, (which has never been used), and the framing modified for shelving, etc. I couldn't finish all the paneling, and left the area bwelow the sing open to access the plumbing there. There is still one cabinet door to be made, and new paneling on all the cabinets in the kitchen will then match. That was the easy part!
I also had to install a whole new plumbing run from the main shut-off, to the kitchen, then to the wash-room, with hot water heater, and faucets for the washing machine. Then continue to the small bathroom, shower/tub, Toilet, and wash basin. The rest of the original plumbing continues from the oint of entryto the rest,(other half of the double-wide), of the plumbing there, Sauna toilet, double basins, and another shower. Part of this had been repaired when we bought. I had to make a dual installation, in effect, because we needed the water, etc, while the new part was being installed. Only one small error: I tied the cold water into the hot water line! I said I was tired. Tomorrow the small bathroom will be installed. I had to make a "tree" for the tub, shower, toilet, and wash-basin. The original plumbing ran all over the place, at random, and I will tie the cold water to all the fixtures, and tie the hot water to the tub, and basin. The new plumbing is all PVC, and hung on hanger-type supports, arranged so that where there is a branch line, there is two hangers on the sides Other that this I have done nothing for nearly six weeks!That will do it! my Dr said I should get some exercise, I hope he is happy!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:41 pm Reply with quote

Dick,

I hope it works out well, it's a lot of work!

Don't feel bad about reversing the lines. I did the same mistake in my house, the next day I had a heated crapper Wink That clued me in that I had connected one run reversed.

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Ed, I had been planning on making that change, but got diistracted, and it got connected. Oh well, no harm done, I checked the faucets, and noticed the water was hot. TYhen I checked the water heater, and it was okay, so back under the house. Yep right at the main input, was connected<still to the hot water line. It is okay, now. i huess I am "human", after all.
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Well , the cabinetry is all but done. Minor details, and one door to be made. I'll have to buy a bit for my router, that will conform to the contour, on the other doors.

The plunbing is in, and all appears to be operating as it should.

I have hopes of returning to collecting, soon! I have not seen the "Honey Do" list, so it could be longer than I hope!!!
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Hopefully the list is shorter than the fixin' that need to be done in these images?

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Coop Laughing back when people "made do" with less--the 30s? We may need to re-learn a few of those skills....

Dick, I hope the brunt of the work is done, and now you can take some time off!
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Coop, those pictures sure briong back memories! The last was the the closest thing to a "one-holer". when you "gotta-go, you gotta go"!
kurt, the big part is finally done, but as in all major repairs, there is clean-up that has to be done. In this case, the the facings were not the same design, so I have to put the same design on the other cabinets, to match. And yes, it may come sooner then later. One of the "old ways od making ends meet, was to do some prospecting, or panning for color. I have done both, and with the p[rice of gold above $1000.00, it is worth thr sweat, and hard work! If I had the means, I would be out doing just that. i enjoyed my mining venture, in AZ.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:15 pm Reply with quote

Dick,
I can only imagine the prospecting $1000+ gold has generated! Shocked No doubt, there are crowds working the placer deposits of the Mother Lode as I type. Have you read the stories of the first people in those areas...could actually pick gold off the ground? Laughing Naturally, that doesn't last forever.
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Kurt, i used to have a collection of "Frontier Times, and treasure Magazines. They covered many years, and told of gold, and silver exploration, (and explotation) all over the world. These "Rags:", devioted their interest in the "Old West, and the Mother Lode country. In AZ, where IO lived, I could go outdoors, and scoop up a pan of dirt, from anywhere in the area, and find color. In the dim past, there was a "blow-out". This is what is referred to when a chimney gets plugged, and explodes. It scatters micron sized bits of metals, etc in a fan-shaped area, where the side of the "chimney blew out. This area covers the entire Skull Valley region, and gold is easily l;ocated everywhere. The only problem is that the veins of gold-bearing quartz, (bull, or miklk quartz), is normally only about 8-10 inches wade, and the vein of gold is normally very narrow. For this reason, it is commercially un economical for any large operation. A One, or two man-operation will break even,if all goes right, (and it usually doesn't). the chimney was somewhere in the Copper Basin area. It has never been positively located. the 'fan shape covers about50 miles, and is widwst out toward the SW. most of this country is ranches, so not too much is done in the commercial ventures. Thewe is a lot of good Metal detecting, all over the area. In the drywashing operations, there always is a small amount of gold obrained, but as I said, it is mostly "micron-sized", and very difficvult to "mine. It takes a special type of drywasher to recover it. Most are electronically operated, and use static electricity. I know of another type that does a pretty good job, but it is not patented, and none exist, now, to my knowledge. The one we built, was dissasembled, becaust id used a small gas engine to operate it, and my partner, (at that time, before I signed out of the claim), had a problem with the noise, and coildn't stand to be anywhere in the area. so it was taken apart, and I have no idea as to how things are going there, now, but you can bet there are gold seekers, all over the area. It is part of what is known as the "Golden Triangle, or Crescent'which includes the Mother lode country, and goes south to the Canyon de Cobre, in Mexico. Then history is well known to treasure hunters, and gold prospectors, alike. I wish I was back there, again, doing what I used to do, and enjoyed so much. I don't care particularily for the accumulation of the gold, so much, as the hunt. I enjoy the challenge! Before I forget, they have documented stories of people finding nuggets, in the streets in Placervill, CA, "back in them thar days"!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:23 am Reply with quote

Dick,
Interesting story about a "blow-out". I had never heard of such a thing--a volcanic event? That's pretty strong to distribute gold over 50 miles. I recently read how many of these CA gold towns were situated on placer deposits. After the river deposits were played out, they found gold under the buildings, such as in Columbia.
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kurt, I'll try and post again. The last one was on the VA computer, and just disappeared! I don't know what I might have ouched on that keyboard, but very strange things happen!
A chimney, or vent is the same thing. If it gets plugged , it will blow the top off, or if there is a weak area on the side of the peak, or mountain, it will "vent" or blow out there. Mt. St. Helens is an example of a blow-out.
The Bradshaw Mountains, of Yavapai County, AZ. is a very well known gold producing region. There are many placer mines there, as well as "lode" type deposits, which have been worked since the mid 1800's.
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Dick, That's interesting. I've wondered about the gold from the Bradshaw Mountains. I don't think they ever found the "mother load" that it came from. I'm always amazed at how Mr Walker happened to explore Lynx creek (I think in 1860s) and they gathered 125,000 ounces in that tiny creek area. (I think using water to blast away around the creek) Then today you can look there and it's hard to find anything. I read that until the 1960s people were still finding nuggets there. I've wondered if the section they found the gold in is realy that creek from the highway to the man made lake. It has scars that look like hydralic mining was done right there. Then the areas going south had huge nuggets, towns along the black canyon were all gold mines. Starting in the Bradshaws, Lynx creek then the big potato size nuggets in Potato Patch and each town had smaller nuggets heading south and I think the last of the chain gets to Lake Pleasant and even Sunyslope but by that far south it's flour not nuggets. It seemed strange that there must have been a source but nobody ever found the origin of it.

I wonder if some sort of blowout brought up the gold then water deposited it in deposits heading south/downhill from the source.

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A chimney, or vent is the same thing. If it gets plugged , it will blow the top off, or if there is a weak area on the side of the peak, or mountain, it will "vent" or blow out there. Mt. St. Helens is an example of a blow-out.

Too bad a lateral eruption like Mt. St. Helens didn't yield gold--that would have put a more positive spin on the event. Very Happy I'm pretty unfamiliar with the geology of Arizona. There must be some interesting conditions for the copper, gold, and other metal deposits to be concentrated there.
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Ed, you have a good overview of the "high countru. The "potato patch", was just east of the hill, ( Yarnell hill). that is where they found nuggets layind on the ground.
Lynx Creek is still producing nuggets, after all these years. My nephew goes out regularily, and has pretty good luck. The "Big Bug" creek is another one that still gets a lot of placer mining, as well as detecting. You have gone to Prescott, going up I-19, to cordes Junction, and over to Prescott, then out "White Spar, Wilhoit, and on down to Wickenburg, or over to lake Pleasant, and south on I-19. Maybe they use the "new" 101, going north from I-10, in PHX. I am not familiar with that freeway, because it did not exist, when I lived in skull Valley. Getting back to the Bradshaws, I have seen small mining going on fro many, many years, and none have had any type of finding, like here in CA., at the "sixteen-plus", (I believe it is the name. They found gold in such large quantities, that it was hard to remove it! It has been shut down, to keep the area from being destroyed by claim-jumpers . You may be familiar with Copper Basin, just out of Prescott. The "Sierra Prieta", or 'Black sierra", may hold more than just a lot of pine trees. Just as possible that Prescott, utself, is sitting on a large deposit. There is just too much gold around the area, ans like you said, no one knows where the mother lode is located. The white Spar, is a huge quartz dike, that has never been fully explored. It is "Milk quartz". In the Yarnell Hill area, is a place, down hill from Yarnenn, going down the canyon road, to Antelope Hill, to a place called "the Eagles Nest", is one of the very popular spots well known and used all winter, by the "gold Prospectors of America. It ius only one of a very large inventory of places to go camping, and spend a lot of time diggimg. They have "dozers", pushing the over-burfen around, to make it easier to get to the underlying gold-bearing sand.
Kurt, you haven't been forgotten!
For your interest, in the "mining game", there are many gem-stones in the high country, as well. That includes turquoise, Garnet, jade, rubys, Amethists, and I believe some low quality emeralds. Gold has bee found down on the desert flatlands, but it is very deep. One mine I know of is over three thousand feet deep. but economically workable for a small operation. Ed, FYI, the mines in Baghdad, (ASARCO, Pima Mining corp. . These two work the same ore body, and have been for many yeears. Pima has worked it for over a hundred years. Anaconda, and other mining corporations all wpork the low-grade copper in the area, and it is quite profitible. ASARCO, for example reported $50,000.00 a year, in silver. They don't mention the gold. The operation works with 0.015 % copper. The "native copper, (pure copper "Nuggets"), is too rich to work. It is not run thru the milling operation, but shipped "raw, along with the Concentrated copper. They ship 28-30% pure copper to the refinery, as a matter of day-today operation,from the filter plant. The "Moly" plant, ships about ten boxcars, loaded with 55-gallon sized drums of Molybenum, a month. They also have an acid process, that uses sulpheric Acid to leech the metals. The acid plant is new, (1947 is when It was installed). (I am recalling from the time I worked there, in '46, and '47, while layed-off from the AT&SF Ry. I was a fireman.). Copper was $0.19/-I don't remember if it is an ounce, or pound. I was making $3.95/hr. as a millweight.
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Ed, you have a good overview of the "high countru. The "potato patch", was just east of the hill, ( Yarnell hill). that is where they found nuggets layind on the ground.
Lynx Creek is still producing nuggets, after all these years. My nephew goes out regularily, and has pretty good luck. The "Big Bug" creek is another one that still gets a lot of placer mining, as well as detecting. You have gone to Prescott, going up I-19, to cordes Junction, and over to Prescott, then out "White Spar, Wilhoit, and on down to Wickenburg, or over to lake Pleasant, and south on I-19. Maybe they use the "new" 101, going north from I-10, in PHX. I am not familiar with that freeway, because it did not exist, when I lived in skull Valley. Getting back to the Bradshaws, I have seen small mining going on fro many, many years, and none have had any type of finding, like here in CA., at the "sixteen-plus", (I believe it is the name. They found gold in such large quantities, that it was hard to remove it! It has been shut down, to keep the area from being destroyed by claim-jumpers . You may be familiar with Copper Basin, just out of Prescott. The "Sierra Prieta", or 'Black sierra", may hold more than just a lot of pine trees. Just as possible that Prescott, utself, is sitting on a large deposit. There is just too much gold around the area, ans like you said, no one knows where the mother lode is located. The white Spar, is a huge quartz dike, that has never been fully explored. It is "Milk quartz". In the Yarnell Hill area, is a place, down hill from Yarnenn, going down the canyon road, to Antelope Hill, to a place called "the Eagles Nest", is one of the very popular spots well known and used all winter, by the "gold Prospectors of America. It ius only one of a very large inventory of places to go camping, and spend a lot of time diggimg. They have "dozers", pushing the over-burfen around, to make it easier to get to the underlying gold-bearing sand.
Kurt, you haven't been forgotten! I almost forgot. The Mount St. Helens is not a mineralized area, as we know it. The area is too ancient for mineralization, as far as I know. As opposed to the Bradshaw Mountains, of AZ, they are relatively young, (some 5 million years old, and they are highl;t minrtalized. Make that read the south-western part of AZ. You won't find mineralization up on the Coconino Plateau.
For your interest, in the "mining game", there are many gem-stones in the high country, as well. That includes turquoise, Garnet, jade, rubys, Amethists, and I believe some low quality emeralds. Gold has bee found down on the desert flatlands, but it is very deep. One mine I know of is over three thousand feet deep. but economically workable for a small operation. Ed, FYI, the mines in Baghdad, (ASARCO, Pima Mining corp. . These two work the same ore body, and have been for many yeears. Pima has worked it for over a hundred years. Anaconda, and other mining corporations all wpork the low-grade copper in the area, and it is quite profitible. ASARCO, for example reported $50,000.00 a year, in silver. They don't mention the gold. The operation works with 0.015 % copper. The "native copper, (pure copper "Nuggets"), is too rich to work. It is not run thru the milling operation, but shipped "raw, along with the Concentrated copper. They ship 28-30% pure copper to the refinery, as a matter of day-today operation,from the filter plant. The "Moly" plant, ships about ten boxcars, loaded with 55-gallon sized drums of Molybenum, a month. They also have an acid process, that uses sulpheric Acid to leech the metals. The acid plant is new, (1947 is when It was installed). (I am recalling from the time I worked there, in '46, and '47, while layed-off from the AT&SF Ry. I was a fireman.). Copper was $0.19/-I don't remember if it is an ounce, or pound. I was making $3.95/hr. as a millweight.
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