You vs PCGS: Grade these 5 1877 IHCs

[GarryN]

Good point Kurt. I agree with your assessment based on Rick Snow's guide. You can bet few if any of these would get his Photo Seal sticker.

[eagames]

That G6 looks too high, my old ANACs AG3 looks better.
I believe they graded it AG3 regardless of how nice it looked because it did not have enough rim to go higher. That G6 has about the same rim.

I think the higher grade ones look bad to me because the pics make the surface blemishes look exagerated.

[GarryN]

True Ed, grading and attributing varieties by photo is not easy. Kurt put up some really good photos, though.

[Dick]

GarryN, i sure wish there was a site that had the FE/IHC varieties posted, as rthe lincolns are here. I go to Ricks site, and the dates are there, with the pertenant info, to use, but no image to compqare. I wonder how much work it would take to link to one's own images with the different varieties found, and be able to see? The fack that several will have a digit "s" for example. That jives with my coin, until I see that it is a big difference, whereas mine barely can be seen. I don't generally check my IHCV reverses, so I may have one, or two DDR's, but I wouldn't know it if it were so. I do have quite a few RPD's, and they are not all the same. Very few duplicates, actually, according to my notebook with the chronological order, and variety number. maybe we all could get our "heads together", and come up with some idea. I know it would be a godsend to the new-comers, not to mention a lot of us that have done it foe some time.
Dick

[GarryN]

I know what you mean. That Wiki site he put up was supposed to be populated with photos but it hasnt come to that yet. His forum is not as active as this one either.

[KurtS]

[Dick]

Kurt, i doubt that this could be the reason. He is very busy doind a lot of work in thesite, and attributions, etc, but I think he also works alone, for the most part. Not only that, amking it tough to identify the varieyty, in hand, the guides are VERY limited in the identification area. For example; he refers to a reverse(S) to match certain obverse characteristics. None of the reverses with the DDR's, and other markers are present. A huge amout of information is available to Rick, but the guides are only available to us, (collectively). that is why I suggest a system, similar to our own, for the purpose of making accutrate attributions. Many of the Snow numbers indicate, and pertain to MPD, (misplaced dates), which, for the most part are superflous, due to the condition of the coins generally seen. If all of them were MS grade, then we would be able to confirm the MPD in the denticles, among other places.` I have the binder, with all but the latest, (vol. 4), and it is (on order). If one doesn't have these guides, they are between a rock, and a hard place! They charge for their membership, and put out a very elegant magazine three times a year, (or there about), and the site has much info, but it does not have a gallery, or a data base, such as we have here. By comparison, Chuck does not charge for membership, with full access to the database, which would be logical, and worthwhile. This site has the most complete info for the lincoln cent, anywhere, outside of the mints, and it is free! Maybe we could get together with Bob, and get some input in this area. We would have to do most of the work, but it would be useful for all odf us collectively. just by comparison, the sets of coins we generally complete, are NOT MS65, or higher. All, or most of the sets I have seen on Ricks site, or links, are all of this level. it would take a millionare to have one like them. I don;'t think theere are that many among our group, so of necessity, it will have to be images of the "good, the bad, and the ugly", if the others are anything like mine!
Dick

[ken]

Been out of the loop for awhile,but here are my guesses before I saw the grades.
1> ag3
2 VG8
3 F12
4 vf30
5 ef45.That being said what do you think this is graded by pcgs.This is one of a few I have.

[Dick]

Hi Ken, welcome back. We all seem to, "come, and go", but always return home again, eventually.
My guess, (and it is only a guess), is AG4
Except for the date, it is like my tribe of warriors, been around a while! I don't have one of them yet, but "one day", one will come home. Thanks for sharing,
Dick

[KurtS]

Ken,
Your coin looks better than the "G6" in the OP!
If I were to guess what it slabbed as...I might say G6

[ken]

Hi Kurt and Dick,I'll give some other of our friends take a shot at it before I reveal what pcgs graded this.Dick,I take it you mean ag3

[Dick]

Ken, no I meant ag4. I can recognize it is an IHC, LOL It looks like one of mine,any date!
Dick

[ken]

Merry Christmas It's been a few days.Here's the grade of this coin.Thank you for all who participated.

[GarryN]

Love those AG-3's !!

[ken]

I'm guessing they knocked it down due to the uneven wear from 9:00-2:00 on obverse.Everything else could get the g6 grade.