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kenSenior Member
Posts: 584 Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Location: Phila.,Pa.
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:23 pm |
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I bought this coin for $3.80 the other day and was told it was machine milled copper coin.However all the milled copper coins I found have the bust facing right. Colonial coins have some with bust facing left as this one is.I can only see a couple letters on top left "ius" and no date is visible and the planchet is cracked.Any ideas on what this actually is
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GarryNExpert Member
Posts: 1296 Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:16 pm |
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The second photo seems to be the same Brittania reverse used on Connecticut coppers and some British coppers. I dont have a clue what the first photo is.
There are Connecticut coppers with busts facing right and left.
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wavysteps2003Expert Member
Posts: 1344 Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:49 am |
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The bottom picture shows "Britannia" and the top is more than likely Queen Victoria. From the size it is more than likely an English 1 penny coin from the early mid to late mid 1800s. If you have a scale handy, the coin should weigh in at about 9 grams.
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kenSenior Member
Posts: 584 Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Location: Phila.,Pa.
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:15 am |
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Hi BJ,Finally got a scale and coin weighs 7 grams.I guess some was lost due to the irregular shape?
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DickExpert Member
Posts: 5780 Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Location: Rialto, CA.
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:21 pm |
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I'm not sure what it is, but what is the diameter/ if it is around 34 mm, it could be an ols 'cartwheel, as they were known as.
Dick
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kenSenior Member
Posts: 584 Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Location: Phila.,Pa.
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:39 pm |
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Hi Dick,Hope you are doing well.Diameter is 1 inch and a 1/16.Just a little bit larger than a quarter.I'm not sure what that is in mm.
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coppercoinsSite Admin
Posts: 2809 Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Location: Springfield, Missouri.
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:41 pm |
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Modern quarters are 24.3mm and half dollars are 30mm. So, this is probably somewhere in between.
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:06 pm |
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When I see coins like that I wish they could talk.
It looks like it had so much use, think of who had it and what it bought in it's day. This one looks like it had quite a life
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DickExpert Member
Posts: 5780 Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Location: Rialto, CA.
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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:15 pm |
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Ken, this is off-topic, but most of mine are, so..... I am doing much better. some coughing, and some meds. BUT! We have a brand new, non-leaking hot water heater, that actually heats the water, (with the cold water valve open. That means no leaks). The reason it would not heat what water that was retained in the remains of the shamble of the broken glass-lined tank, weas due to a leak in the hot water line, going to the large bathroom. It was too far away to see, or hear.. That was fixed, and we don't smell like folks without a bath for five weeks.... Well a hot one, anyway.
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DickExpert Member
Posts: 5780 Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Location: Rialto, CA.
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:58 am |
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Ken, this is for tou:
http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/halfp.htm
It was provided bySAP, on CCF canadian coins
This should answer your question.
Dick
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kenSenior Member
Posts: 584 Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Location: Phila.,Pa.
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:31 pm |
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Hi Dick,From your link it has 2 dates that look like a possibility.George II 1736 farthing, young head or
1744 farthing, older head.The young head uses a v instead of a u,so my guess is the older head from 1744.Here's the link for comparison.This is the only date I found with the ius with head facing in this direction.
http://www.ukcoinpics.co.uk/farth.html
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DickExpert Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:57 pm |
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Hi again, Ken! I hope the link was of use. i don't collect UK, so I have no idea as to the value to you, but SAP, of Australia was kind enough to provide the link, so I gave it to you. I clicked on the link you posted, and it looks like the same one. it is by the same author.
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kenSenior Member
Posts: 584 Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Location: Phila.,Pa.
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:41 pm |
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Hi Dick,That link was great.Now I at least have some idea of what it is.Not worth much,but it'e a neat coin.It does make you wonder who may have soent this coin all those years ago as someone else mentioned in a previous comment.Thank you again.God Bless, Ken
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coppercoinsSite Admin
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:16 am |
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For what it's worth, I'll start by saying I know NOTHING about these...but...from what I see, I agree with the 1744 George II attribution.
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