1972 dot between the s and t on the word trust
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aukizyNew Member
Posts: 9 Joined: 23 Mar 2010
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:14 pm |
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There is a dot between the s and t on the word trust
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DickExpert Member
Posts: 5780 Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Location: Rialto, CA.
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:44 pm |
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I see the dot, and I wonder is the rim a bit "thick"?
It might just be my vision.
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Bob PSite Admin
Posts: 3482 Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Niceville, Florida
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:40 pm |
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Slightly misaligned die. The rim would be considered normal. The dot between the S snd T of TRUST is a die gouge.
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coppercoinsSite Admin
Posts: 2809 Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Location: Springfield, Missouri.
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:47 pm |
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I'm gonna agree with Bob here, primarily because he's always right (*wink*)...just joking.
Anyhow, on the brass or bronze composition cents (up to 1982) raised "dots" are usually die gouges. On later years the dots could be a completely different anomaly - gas bubbles get trapped under the copper plating and expand. They often corrode and eventually break open.
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DickExpert Member
Posts: 5780 Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Location: Rialto, CA.
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:45 pm |
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That precisely is why I say, if they want to get rid of the penny, start with the '83-date. That will let them see the effect, and we can "weed out" the rest of the "zincolns".
My impression was a dent, or gouge in the die. The rim looked a bit odd, but my 'peepers' aren't what they used to be, so I'll take your word for it. If in doubt, use a toothpick, and see if you can "mash down the dot, bump or what ever it is. Like Chuck says, the coating, if it has a pin-hole, will allow air to enter, and the zinc will react with it to produce gas, which in turn will cause swelling. the end effect is a nasty, black piece of junk, that I always recycle in the rolls that are returned to the bank.
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eagamesExpert Member
Posts: 3013 Joined: 15 Nov 2005
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:00 pm |
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Dick,
Hahaha!!!! I think it will happen naturally.
Even now people with metal detectors dig dig up old Roman coins. Maybe in a few thousand years some archeologists will be digging up lincolns and they might assume the last year they were made was 1982 because all the zincolns will have turned to dust.
I go detecting and dig the zincolns and sometimes it's like copper foil with holes in it or only a crumbling dull bumpy disc. Then I dig an older copper cent and it's still solid and spendable.
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DickExpert Member
Posts: 5780 Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Location: Rialto, CA.
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Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:53 pm |
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Shucks, I don't go betecting any more, and I dig out the black shells, every now and then, from the rolls I can't be sure if they are mine, or Coops. H One can't be sureif the armored car service ios sdelivering return from some other area, or state! Coop,,maybe we should mark our returns, so we know if they have been here before.e likes to make sure the mint gets all the "left-overs, to recycle".
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coopExpert Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:15 am |
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I wrap up mine into rolls and hang on to them till I need the money or the place I work at needs them. Then I cash them in. They usually have plenty, but every now and again they run short because they didn't buy enough.
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coppercoinsSite Admin
Posts: 2809 Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Location: Springfield, Missouri.
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:30 am |
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Thing is, once the mint makes the coins and sends them into the fed reserve system, they never see them again. The coins remain in circulation until they are buried or destroyed.
Take a road trip to Tucson or Kingman and turn them into a bank there. Highly unlikely you'll see the bulk of them again.
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DickExpert Member
Posts: 5780 Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Location: Rialto, CA.
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:13 pm |
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If we 'take them to Kingman, then it is pretty sure the one who took them there, won't see them again, in either case. Bue if Coop takes them to Tucson, then the chances are very likely that he would. it is only about 125 miles away from Phoenix. kingman is250-300 miles north of Phoenix, and about the same east od my place in Rialto he could see my returns, or vice-versa. The only p[roblem <(in my case), is that the bank don't like to get large lots of coins at one time. I have aropund 40, or 50 boxes of cents, stacked everywhere, and one day i may need to move them to use the space to store something else, ( that is if the flooring hasn't given away, and let them crash down onto the ground, below! That is the nice part of living in a moblie home, they have "semi-bombay doors", that can open if enough weight is put there..... The neighbors probalpy would not appreciate the noise, however.
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coppercoinsSite Admin
Posts: 2809 Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Location: Springfield, Missouri.
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:13 am |
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Well, it's actually likely that you'll never see the same coins again if you turn them in a few miles across town. Remember - coins are not a cancer that spread on their own with some malicious intent. Most coins, especially Lincoln cents, stay local to the area of the bank they came from. Remember that most people don't even use cents any more.
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DickExpert Member
Posts: 5780 Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Location: Rialto, CA.
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:11 pm |
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Now I know why I get so many rolls , full of junk! I'm getting that which I gave! I guess the ones I have ready for return will be "transported' elsewhere, for the next return! I was not aware of the way they operate,and "assumed", (not a good idea), that the rolls were sent to a central point and counted, and re-rolled.
Coop, you're safe! You won't be getting my discards, after all, (and vice-versa),
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RobertSenior Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:08 pm |
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I have to say I love the term "Zincoln". Dick, you came up with a gem right there. Well done.
Zincolns.
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DickExpert Member
Posts: 5780 Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Location: Rialto, CA.
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Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:21 pm |
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Sorry, Robert, You can't get me on that one! Coop, is the "Mastermind" who came up with the term! I agree, it is different, and i have adopted it in my vocabulary, among the more 'choice terms that reside there".
Like Ed says the
"zincolmns come out lika a foil, but I rather believe they woud be copper, the 'clad", and I was thinking, what if I went into Some coffee shop, and tried to pay for the coffee, with the old, black cents, that we are being forced to accept, as coins?
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