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ImahikMember
Posts: 30 Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Location: Roseville, CA
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:37 pm |
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Is this a 1936 Doubled Die Obverse? The picture is a grainy scan of a VF-20 penny.
Thanks again.
Dennis
Edited to fix the link.
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Bob PSite Admin
Posts: 3482 Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Niceville, Florida
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:47 pm |
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Dennis,
I certainly can't tell from the pic whether or not it is a doubled die. There is only one documented RPM for 1936S, and the coin in the pic is not it. I have one of the largest collections of 1936 variety cents, and as far as I am aware of, there are no known doubled dies for the San Fransisco mint for 1936. Of course...You could always be the first to find one!
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coppercoinsSite Admin
Posts: 2809 Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Location: Springfield, Missouri.
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:32 pm |
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ImahikMember
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:59 pm |
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Thanks, you guys, for looking at my picture. It just seems to me that under the 1936 and the “S” is another 1936 S higher and to the right, but directly under the date on top. This ’36-S looks like that '55 I asked you about.
Chuck, I know what you mean about the fat numbers like you would see in a 1936 DDO. I meant to include an “S” in my title, but forgot. I will be the first to admit that I need digital camera. The picture is terrible.
Dennis
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ImahikMember
Posts: 30 Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Location: Roseville, CA
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:02 pm |
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I have to ask another rookie-question. What does RPM mean? Repunched or Rotated Planchet something-or-other, I’m guessing.
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RobertSenior Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:22 pm |
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coppercoinsSite Admin
Posts: 2809 Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Location: Springfield, Missouri.
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:29 pm |
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The fat numbers would be something I would look for on any doubled die, not just the 1936. Regardless of the class of doubling, there will be something different with how the profile of the letters and numbers look on the field of the coin - this is the "fatness" I am describing.
When I look at doubling on a coin, I forget the doubling and let my eyes trace a line around the affected devices at the point where those devices meet the field (flat area) of the coin. If the outline of what I see is fatter or larger in any direction than it's supposed to be, I likely have a doubled die.
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ImahikMember
Posts: 30 Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Location: Roseville, CA
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:21 am |
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Thanks, Robert and Chuck.
What I thought I saw was a date stamped over the same date. It wasn't perfectly stamped, however, because it still looks to me like the date that's underneath is trying to creep out from under the top date. Does the die bounce when worn?
I can’t wait for you book, Chuck. I swear I’m not beyond help. Lol.
Dennis
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coppercoinsSite Admin
Posts: 2809 Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Location: Springfield, Missouri.
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:36 am |
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Dies bounce when they aren't properly anchored into the coining press. Has nothing to do with how much wear they have on them. Die wear in itself can cause a shadow-like doubling usually toward the outside edges of the lettering, as with the 1955 "poor man's" double, which is nothing more than a coin struck with a heavily worn die.
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