2009 lincoln formative years ddr

Error Nut · Member

What has sparked alot of my interest in error coin collecting was the 2009 P formative years ddr's. Just a bit curious to see where alot of the errors have turned up for others? I have seen more of them in the lp2 U.S. Mint issued two roll sets. Brinks clear wrapped rolls and the N.F. string rolls. Now I have been finding more of them in circulation. Any thoughts? The hunt still goes on.

eagames · Expert Member

Welcome aboard.

Those were mostly on P mints so not much turns up here in the western states.

Those varieties did get new variety collectors interested.

While you're looking keep an eye on the 2006 cents you might still get because they had some bigger doubled dies.

coppercoins · Site Admin

Error Nut - First off, welcome to the site and the forum. The folks here are some of the best at helping take care of new collectors - you are in good hands.

One thing that should not go without mention, especially to new collectors, is that the terms "error coin" and "doubled die" are unrelated to one another in all aspects except that both occur to coins. They are as related as both "boat" and "motorcycle" are to "vehicle" but not to one another.

An "error coin" is the result of a mistake in the minting process that leaves a coin struck with flaws. Whether it be on the wrong metal, a clipped planchet, an off-center strike, or a broken die, all are related in that they are more or less coin-to-coin.

A "die variety" is a coin struck by a die that was created with doubling of some sort. This includes doubled dies, repunched mintmarks, repunched dates, over dates, and over mintmarks.

While some may use the terms "error" and "variety" completely synonymously, it is my contention (and that of many experienced collectors) that the two are actually very different, so much as to deem them as two separate collector groups with two separate markets. I, for instance, have no interest in collecting error coins, while die varieties have encompassed much of my numismatic study over the past 30 years.

Anyhow, that was lesson one. Again, welcome!

ken · Senior Member

Well said Chuck Exclamation

Error Nut · Member

Thanks so much for lesson one. I have been on ebay to long referring to most as error coins. My true interest is in collecting double die's and mintmark varieties. My first real find in pocket change was a 1972 d ddo. Mostly I have been in search of the formative years ddr's. By checking sites like this one it helps me see what more to search for. Thanks so much! Have a Great Day!

coppercoins · Site Admin

Lesson two?

When referring to a coin that shows "hub doubling" the term to use is "doubled" die...not "double" die. It's a matter of semantics, but I can tell you for sure that every experienced collector can spot a noob that way.

If you think about the English and what the name really means, it makes perfect sense. A bus with two floors is a "double decker" - it has two. An ice cream cone with two scoops is a "double dipper" - it has two.

A doubled die has but one design...it's just doubled. See??

Error Nut · Member

Thanks for lesson two.. I will get this sooner, hopefully not later.
Does make very good sense Double being two. I did have other questions. Just a bit curious to see what type of loupe that everyone uses? I have a bausch and lomb 10x lighted loupe. I dont like the light, but the loupe itself does have great clarity. I use an Amscope stereo microscope 10,20,30,60x. Using a 10x adapter on my camera for pictures at 30x. Once again Thanks for lesson two.

ken · Senior Member

Even the big boys make mistakes when referring to "doubled die".This is from a previous thread. Shocked

http://www.coppercoins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5697

coppercoins · Site Admin

They aren't as tight on semantics as those who actually study the subject - that's for sure. Same goes for using "XF" as a grade since it is specifically noted in writing many times by those who initiated the grading system they all adopted that the proper abbreviation is "EF" and not "XF".

Additionally, the term is "Extremely Fine" and not "Extra Fine", as "extremely" is a qualitative term and "Extra" is a quantitative term. Plain English.

It is extremely nice outside today.

I have extra flour to make another batch.

See?