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1903 Morgan Cuds?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:28 pm Reply with quote

Hi all,This coin is slightly MAD and has what may possibly be called cuds around portions of the rim area.Would they be called "cuds"? Thank you,Ken Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:03 am Reply with quote

No thoughts on this anyone Question Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:14 am Reply with quote

Mini-Cuds?

I'm curious also but would have to guess that they meet the criteria of a cud?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:18 pm Reply with quote

Hello Jon,I'm guessing it is metal overflow from the mis-aligned dies and I am not sure if this qualifies as a "cud" Confused .This is the basis of my post.Hope someone more qualified(than us)on this topic chimes in.Thank you for your response.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:12 pm Reply with quote

I'm sure that if anyone chimes in, They'll be more qualified than I am........LOL. That's why I'm here, to learn Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:47 am Reply with quote

It is definitely an outer rim cud. Here are examples with some explanation. The consensus is that if the cud does not extend into the field, it is not listable or a significant part of the description. There is a link within and near the bottom of the first link below to the Vam 32 page. That photo also shows a rim cud.


http://www.vamworld.com/message/view/home/28837559

http://www.vamworld.com/message/view/home/37304842


For comparison, here is some die progression on a listable cud.

http://www.vamworld.com/message/view/home/25929619
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:14 pm Reply with quote

I was thinking it might be a fake.. The rim area looks like it has had two halves put together.
What does the edge look like, dead-on?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:33 pm Reply with quote

Thanks for the links Gary.Dick,Definitely not a fake coin.Rim looks as it should.Still baffled how this formed though.As I stated before,maybe the mis-aligned die has something to do with it. Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:44 pm Reply with quote

You are welcome, Ken.

One of the comments in the links probably had it correct. The cause is probably just mishandling of the die which caused some nicks to form at the rim of the die. Hence the cuds that form along the rim of the coin. These rim cuds are actually somewhat common in certain dates.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:42 am Reply with quote

Maybe Mike D. will comment.....
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:03 pm Reply with quote

These are rim cuds - no question about it.
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