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ScottNew Member
Posts: 19 Joined: 29 May 2004
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 7:54 pm |
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Well said gentlemen, and welcome to the site JS. I would like to add a bit regarding Proof-69 and Proof-70 graded coins. In my opinion..there is no difference. I have owned a PCGS 1964 Proof-70 graded proof set as well as the 1961,1962 and 1963 proof quarters graded as Proof 70 by PCGS. There is no way I would pay a premium for another one. A full 3 of the 4 Proof-70 quarters developed white spotting in the holder within months after I purchased them! It told me they were obviously dipped and not neutralized after. I actually sent them to PCGS to get them off the market as they certainly weren't Proof-70 anymore. They did stand behind their grade guarantee after multiple phone calls and several months. In my eyes, if you like proof coinage, go after the Proof-69's. They are CHEAP and you won't tell the difference from a proof 70. The proof 70's are a BIG dollar addition in a collection to claim fame in the registry races...nothing more.
Scott
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smedSenior Member
Posts: 624 Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: Zephyrhills Florida
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 9:03 pm |
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Interesting... just like the $40,000 1963 PCGS PF70DCAM developed spots.
PCGS bought it back, if you still have yours, maybe you can get them to buy those as well.
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ScottNew Member
Posts: 19 Joined: 29 May 2004
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 9:30 pm |
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Smed,
They already bought all 3 back, about 4 or 5 years ago. I recovered most of my costs, so it wasn't the worst that could have happened.
Scott
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Matt DingerAdvanced Member
Posts: 138 Joined: 12 Feb 2005
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:46 pm |
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i bought a $5 eagle struck with unfinished proof dies that was graded MS70 by PCGS on ebay....got it and took a look at it and on the reverse was a big thumb print......needless to say i was not happy....
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coopExpert Member
Posts: 3402 Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:25 am |
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What if........ the encapule that they put the coins in were at fault. Boy that would be a bummer to them.
_________________ Richard S. Cooper
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jsindacoNew Member
Posts: 19 Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Location: Wyoming Valley, PA
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:10 am |
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PCGS buys coins with a problem? I'll go to their site to check on this practice.
But anyway, I felt this penny in my hand had a VERY high rim on the obverse. The reverse feels normal. It is a 1964D and the motto is incredibly sharp. It is very low relief and I think some of the letters are deformed. It's almost like the impression is twice as deep as a normal cent.
Is this a common occurance. Is there any existing resource for learning more about it?
And about copper coins...I have a Roosevelt dime that is made from only the center layer. There are NO silvery layers on the head and tail. Does that count as a copper coin?
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coppercoinsSite Admin
Posts: 2809 Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Location: Springfield, Missouri.
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:12 am |
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PCGS buys coins residing in their slabs that have a problem that makes them market unacceptable for what's on the slab. They don't just "buy coins with a problem."
Your dime is struck without the clad layers. Not common, but not rare either. This would not make it a copper coin within the context of this site because we handle one cent coins only.
As for a resource on error coins - not sure. I don't collect or deal in error coins as a practice, so I don't look for resources on the subject.
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jsindacoNew Member
Posts: 19 Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Location: Wyoming Valley, PA
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:08 pm |
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Do those letters look skewed? This coin really feels odd.
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jsindacoNew Member
Posts: 19 Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Location: Wyoming Valley, PA
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:14 pm |
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And why does that guy have a picture of a quarter?
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Matt DingerAdvanced Member
Posts: 138 Joined: 12 Feb 2005
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:47 pm |
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because it is an error, i like errors........does it really matter?
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jsindacoNew Member
Posts: 19 Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Location: Wyoming Valley, PA
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:13 pm |
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I'm just razzing you.
I like errors too.
That one is almost a weapon
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Matt DingerAdvanced Member
Posts: 138 Joined: 12 Feb 2005
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:35 am |
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really you collect errors??? what do you like? i really like the off center stuff....the older the better...
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jsindacoNew Member
Posts: 19 Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Location: Wyoming Valley, PA
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:35 am |
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Matt:
Sure I like errors, my first coin is a 2000 1c O/C MS66RD, and look at that jpeg I just posted. The 'E' is so far out of alignment that I'm guessing it's an error.
The guy that got me started is an avid error collector. I call him 'errorBob' He gave me a few clips and a couple of cuds last week.
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jsindacoNew Member
Posts: 19 Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Location: Wyoming Valley, PA
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:12 pm |
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Matt:
You should have that quarter mounted edgewise onto a stout ring and then sharpen the inner edge...like a scimitar
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jsindacoNew Member
Posts: 19 Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Location: Wyoming Valley, PA
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:15 pm |
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What kind of optical instruments do y'all use 'round these parts? I bought a cheap mono-zoom-scope today. The guy said it had a good field of view...I hope his idea of good is pretty close to mine. Slightly over an inch should be good to start out with...no?
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