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JRoccoVeteran Member
Posts: 418 Joined: 08 Oct 2004
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 9:57 pm |
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I know the 58D has some wild varieties like the 58D/D/D/D/D and I know this is not that variety, but what the heck is going on with this. It looks like some wild die cracks/breaks under the tip of the 9, but what is with the raised elements to the right of the MM? Any help will be appreciated. I have more pics if needed , but they all show the same basic view.
[img]http://forums.collectors.com/include/uploadbox/viewfile.cfm?files=58ddd%2Ejpg[/img]
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coopExpert Member
Posts: 3402 Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 5:28 pm |
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Matt DingerAdvanced Member
Posts: 138 Joined: 12 Feb 2005
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 6:38 pm |
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I think it's a planchet problem.....to the right of the MM appears to be another area of intrest....could be gas bubbles...or a small lamination
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Matt DingerAdvanced Member
Posts: 138 Joined: 12 Feb 2005
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 6:41 pm |
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you know, after looking at it a little more it could very well be a die crack.....look under the shoulder towards the edge....there appears to be a die crack there.....but the area to the right of the MM looks like planchet problems I see a lot
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Bob PSite Admin
Posts: 3482 Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Niceville, Florida
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 7:31 pm |
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I have this very same die. What we are seeing is a die crack under the 9, and a rather intriguing grouping of die gouges under the 5 and at the base of the bust. I saved this very die because it was so wierd, but I have also spent much time studying it also.
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JRoccoVeteran Member
Posts: 418 Joined: 08 Oct 2004
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 9:41 pm |
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Thanks again for the help coop- I no longer owe you a beer, I now owe you a case. I appreciate all the opinions guys. I am glad you have the same die Bob- it is interesting. The area to the right of the MM is really odd. There are al least 4 separate raised curved elements that together form a really odd appearance. Yes there is a nice die crack to the south of the bust also. I will keep this coin in the ---"ODD" coin roll where all these weird pieces end up.
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coopExpert Member
Posts: 3402 Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 5:07 pm |
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Thanks JRocco.... I'll be looking for it in the mail.. LOL
http://image.inkfrog.com/pix/coop49/Another_Beer.jpg
If that seems normal, you don't need another beer.....
_________________ Richard S. Cooper
You may be only one person in the world, but you may also be the world to one person.
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