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mikediamond
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:46 pm Reply with quote

Chuck, do you have any inside information on the alleged 1944 thick "experimental cent"? The one I had weighed 4.17 grams. I think it's just a cent struck on planchet punched out of rolled thick stock. I have other thick cents from other years that are just as heavy. It would make no sense for the mint to waste a critical war material like copper on coins.

Also, any inside dope on the heavy 1941 brassy cents alleged to have been struck on foreign stock? Another dubious claim, in my opinion. I think they're just a combination improper alloy mix/rolled-thick error. 1941 produced a tremendous number of normal-weight improper alloy mix cents, so it stands to reason that one of those poorly mixed strips was also rolled too thick. These coins, which weigh about 3.4 grams, are not brassy enough to be convincing as brass foreign stock errors and are also quite streaky, just like an improper alloy mix error.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 5:10 pm Reply with quote

To be truthful with you, I've never given much time or attention to errors. As for them being an experiment, I would think someone would have known and published something before now if an experiment had taken place way back then. The other part that bothers me, as you said, the mint was looking for something to use for cents OTHER than copper back then - why would they want to experiment with increasing the weight of copper used per coin? Doesn't add up.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:46 pm Reply with quote

Here you go.................
http://cgi.ebay.com/1-CENT-2005-MIRROR-LETTER-LOOK-LOOK-LOOK_W0QQitemZ8329797636QQcategoryZ524QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
YOU ARE BIDDING ON

2005 1CENT “MIRROR LETTER”

I CALL HIM MIRROR LETTER,

THAN THE LETTERS LOOKS LIKE IN A MIRROR,

YOU CAN SEE THE BACKSIDE BUILDIND IN HIS FACE

AND LETTERS AROUND

It is encapsulated.... Worth more than the coin.....
A lot of money for a squashed in the vice Cent. Value, the price on the reverse of the coin......

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 5:50 pm Reply with quote

Coop....I am beginning to se more and more of these 'encapsulated' coins for sale. As you know, because they are in a slab does not make it authentic....especially this one! I guess someone had a sale on slabs because a lot of the Buffalo's are showing up in these no-name slabs now.

Be careful folks! This is a prime example of what people are doing to try and defraud you of your money.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 6:16 pm Reply with quote

I should bid on it and pick it up in person. He is literally in the next town over. Perhaps just a couple blocks. Joe

Check out his other items. Not a real collectable in the bunch.
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JRocco
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:38 pm Reply with quote

Look at all the bidding on that mess. What a shame. It would take someone 20 seconds of thought to realize that that has to be a fake error. As for the slab-----I guess when it is your own slab you can put anything you want on the label- maybe he should grade it a proof 70 while he/she is at it.
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