2005 D possibilities? # 2

[errorfinder]

found this on the E of e-pluribus unum (3 pics)1st two are upside down

[coop]

The mark at the bottom part of the E looks interesting, but in the second Photo it shows wither a bag mark or machine doubling. Are other letters showing the same mark? Or just the one letter? Doubling usually affects more than just one letter.

[Gabe]

It looks like a doubled die to me. See if you cant sent it to Chuck, Bob or Coop to get added to the site.

[errorfinder]

upon further examination (the right lighting ,right angle)ya know how it is, found "noise" east on 1st U of unum ...unfortunately the next letter to the E... P looks "bag" dinged.

[Gabe]

Yep, it looks like a doubled die to me. See if you can get something worked out to have it added to the site.

[wavysteps2003]

Not to put a damper on this coin, however, from the looks of it all indicators point to a worn die. If the doubling at the bottom of the E of EPU is valid, then you should see shifts on other EPU letters to the south also. The next photo shows a possible doubling to the east which does not fall in with what should happen; you should have seen some doubling on the bottom of the U if it is a true doubled die. Even though some of the areas in the photo are blurred, I think I see metal flow lines that would also indicate a LDS to VLDS and that type of doubling seen on this coin is not an uncommon sight for that state . The last nail in the equation is that this coin does not have any NOTCHING, which is the tell-tale sign for a doubled die. If you look at the doubling line on the E of EPU, it goes straight across. If it were a doubled die, the line would bend to the south at the lower serif of the E.

Of course, I could be all wet on these observations and it should be looked at by either Bob or Chuck to confirm its validity. We are definitely due for a 2005 doubled die obverse

You all have a good one and keep on searching.

Regards,
WAVYSTEPS2003

[Bob P]

It does indeed look interesting, buut I do not believe it is a doubled die. A combination of die wear or deterioration, and a striking or ejection problem seems to be the culprit here. It would be interesting to note that what you are referring to is actually a pretty good spread, and as such, should be seen on the bottoms of other letters in the motto, or at least, the center of the E of the motto.
BJ (wavysteps), and coop asked the very questions I would have.
I would be more than happy to look at it for you errorfinder, but I am pretty confident it is not a doubled die.