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Is This A Possible Totally Separated Extra Lincoln Sitting?
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Gabe
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:24 pm Reply with quote

Cool Billy. Ill check out my dealer's NN and see what the new discovery is. Also, cant wait to see what the NEW discovery can be. Keep up the good work!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:01 pm Reply with quote

To update:

I was just informed by Dave Harper, senior editor of Numismatic News, my article will run in the upcoming Jan. 3rd, 2006 issue. Unless I miss my guess - I believe that is also the FUN Show issue.

A follow-up article announcing another new discovery will be in the following Jan. 10th issue of NN.

Already - it's going to be a "wild & crazy" new year for die varieties!

I would like to take this opportunity to wish all a Happy Holidays and a Safe & Prosperous New Year! Good luck in your searches and collecting endeavors.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 2:59 pm Reply with quote

I didn't realize that they were renovating the Memorial till I saw it on one of my coins.......

The coin was exactly as you see it. No damaging took place by me. THE MINT DID IT!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:24 pm Reply with quote

Anyone heard of any new developments? I have been keeping my eye out for the NN, but I havent seen anything yet...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:44 pm Reply with quote

Nope ... still waiting on Billy, to post back ... I don't get NN myself.

Guess he hasn't noticed the forums are back up. Crying or Very sad

But he will soon, I hope. Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:17 am Reply with quote

In a nutshell, the obverse doubled die that was found on the satin bison coin was also found on the ocean view satin coin; it is now possible to have in that set, a doubled die bison or a doubled die ocean view or if you are very lucky, both of them!!!!

Recent E-bay sales have shown that the first prices for these doubled dies, have dropped of dramatically; from $500.00 down to an average of $40.00 to $50.00 with a set of the two doubled dies going for $47.00.

This seems realistic for it is a minor, though nice doubled die and it is unique in that it is found on two different reverses (not to sure if that has ever happened in the history of U.S. coin making ?).

Of course, no warnings are needed, look at all 2006 coinage for oddities, it is bound to happen Very Happy .

You all have a good one,
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:02 am Reply with quote

Reason for the dramatic price decrease is the same as with any other new discovery. While there are very few known and it is a major headline story they sell for big money. Once more start to surface and many people have one, the price drops off dramatically, especially if they are rather common as these are.

The 1995 DDO cent started out at above $500, and quickly dropped to $50 or less because many of them were found shortly after its discovery. I know of one bag yielding 85 of them in higher grades (MS66-MS67). There are now at least 5,000 of them passing through collector and dealer hands now.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:49 pm Reply with quote

Is there any place where I can find pictures of the reverse doubling on the Ocean In View Nickel? This is probably just machine doubling but I'd like to be sure before I toss them out. I have a couple that I got in change recently which I tried to make photos of but with mixed success. Here's mine:

This seems to be a very late die stage in that there are not the sharp edges and clean surfaces that you would expect to find on a coin of early die stage. There are two rather large areas along the rim where the die has been cracked and obliterated, a long cud built up in its place.
I didn't have the patience to play with lighting so my other photos of the lettering came out crap. It does have doubling in a lot of the lettering.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:35 pm Reply with quote

Here's another try at showing the doubling on the reverse of this 2005P Ocean View Nickel:

Could this be worth keeping?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:16 pm Reply with quote

Murph,
I can't quite make a guess on this one. It looks interesting, but also quite minor. Do you see any indication of notches on the letters of the reverse at all? It certainly would be worth a look though. The pictures aren't as bad as you make them seem. A little more work on the lighting and I think you will have it.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:23 pm Reply with quote

Hi,
I just joined these forums and I will be happy to let you know if I come across any other cents like this one. It seems pretty apparent that it is indeed a doubled die.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:35 pm Reply with quote

Murphy: There is another site that feature variety Nickels.
http://www.varietynickels.com/
Justin may have some information on them.

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