My favorite error penny

[Bob P]

Garry,
You certainly aren't the only one experiencing frustrations with EBay sellers. That just re-emphasizes my point about trying to deal with reputable people who know about the hobby. I know that's kind of tough, especially when you are looking for a particular coin and have been unable to get it from your known sources. It sure makes those EBay coins look better...with or without pictures. Just be patient or make sure the individual has an iron clad money back guarantee on what they sell you. You will get what you are looking for, maybe from a source you hadn't even thought of before. Some of my prized coins have come that way. Keep the faith!

Bob P

[coop]

Identifing sometimes what you find can be hard to determine was errors are just one time happening and there are so many of them made and sent out each day. But here are a few to help get a handle on the names of:
Deep Capped Dies? Not sure what the exact term is for this one? Doubled Struck Proof Cent and a Trial Cent with a partial collar.

These are called strike through errors as most are struck through grease/wire/thread/string/cloth and what ever else gets in the way! No extra premium on grease filled. This is kind of a sellers market, they get what can TAKE from inexperienced ones. But they are common. You just have to look for them.
Grease fill obverse or reverse: No extra premium on grease filled dies. Its kind of a sellers market, they get what they can TAKE from inexperienced ones.


Thanks Chuck. Anything else wrong let me know as I can fix this.
You to Bob.............

[coop]

More Errors:

[coppercoins]

Hey Coop....nice images.

That 1998 cent next to bottom - if the reverse of that coin is "normal" and the obverse is mashed outward, then you have a partial collar strike. Makes one side larger than normal while keeping the other side the normal size. Not sure on yours because I naturally cannot see the reverse.

Your "planchet split" is actually termed "laminated planchet." A planchet split is when an entire side falls off due to lamination. This can happen before or after the strike.

The O on your coin is called "lamination" while the N is called a "lamination peel"...difference being that the piece is gone on one of them and is still attached on the other.

[wavysteps2003]

Variety coins have a tendancy to be hard to fake, although a local coin dealer did show me one where someone had taken a razor? and tried to duplicate a doubled die !!!!!

Error coins, now that is a different story. Here are two examples of multiple struck coins that were manufactured outside the mint using what they call a "soft die" (a die that has been copied from an original relief)

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This first example was struck a total of seven to eight times with a partial obverse and reverse "soft die" to produce this effect. Obviosly, the multiple false strikes are to sharp. Each strike, if true (mint made), would have just about obliterated the previous strike. Also, not that appearent whithout some studying, is the position of the strikes; the coin would have had to had a rotated die.


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The second example is a bit more amateurish and involves three strikes from another "soft die". Again, this would not have happened at the mint and for it to be a true strike, the die would have to be broken and lifted up to impact just the date area.

Other ares of error coins that are being fradulently made are "clips",both straight, jagged and curved and unplated coins, especially the Lincoln cent. This one appears like a 1943 Lincoln cent but of a different date; this can be achieved by the use of electrolysis.

These "errors" can all be found on Ebay, so use caution when buying.

WAVYSTEPS2003

[coop]

Bob: The grease filled reverse below the 1998 Cent is the reverse of that coin. A lot going on on that scrap!

The reason my images are so long is simple. The image host has a limit of 700 images for that price. So I thought I would stack several images into the same image so it only counts as one. Easier to post and I watch to keep the images at the 600-700 pixel range that way the screen doesn't widen and you have to use the arrows to read it.

[Bob P]

Coop,
Even though you addressed your last post to me, it was Chuck who made the comment about the 1998. They are some nice examples of home made error coins. You seem to have quite a collection of them. Been doing a little work in the garage


Nice pics also Coop. Too bad about the 700 pic limit. You would need a host that'll give you a 700,000 pic limit

[coop]

Bob: The homemade errors are Wavysteps'. These are what I've set asside for educational purposes or stole off ebay to use for educational purposes. I own most of the coins shown, just not all. I think we need a "Garage made" section. I've got a few of those to add to the list. We could call them "The Undesireables" I've got some acid dipped ones, I've seen a fake 44-D I think that was Murphy's. Several on the site to make up that new page of "What N O T To bid on on Ebay........... Lets see we could add 1958/7's to the list, Poormans DD several years of them. I know there are more. Just can't think of right now. But I can add them. It nice having the long image as you only need to post once or twice to have a mile of images..