1992-d close am

[bruce 1947]

THANKS MURPH

[eagames]

I think Coop said it early in the string on this.

The easy way to see what a wide AM looks like is look at the reverse of any 92 (other than the one in millions that's close) and you will see what wide AMs look like. Then look at any 93 or newer bus strike/non proof (other than the one in millions with that's wide) and you will see what close looks like.

Another thing you will see is that some close AMs do touch but some have a small gap but it's not nearly as wide as a wide AM.

One day I thought I hit the jackpot, I looked at the only 93-S proof I had and saw it was close but after I figured out that 93 is an odd year, most or all bus strikes and proofs are close. So much for my jackpot.

[murphy]

That has happened to most of us.

[coop]

I think the mystery of why some AM touch and others don't may lie in the wear of a die. I think that all close AM started out as normal, but as the die wore the gap between the AM got smaller. Die tend to wear by getting larger devices. No as noticed unless they are very close such as on the cloase AM. I guess another indicator of wear would also be the designers initials, but they are not as noticed as much as the touching AM. I guess they are observed on the earlier dies for doubled dies, but not as closely watched now. Kind of like on the post 90's till now, when was the last time you checked the mintmark for a RPM. We don't so same two with the designers initials, we just don't check them for distance between letters.

[coppercoins]

Pennyhound needs to add to his list of known varieties the 1998S proof close AM. I was the purchaser of the discovery set from Enid, Oklahoma on that variety. It was published in Coin World then offered at the ONA show in Oklahoma City the following month by the discoverer - last April, where I wrote the check for it. Purchase price was over $1000 -- it was resold to a private collector shortly thereafter.

[pennyhound]

Done and so noted to earlier (part of this) thread.

Thanks for bringing this one up Chuck.

[murphy]

I was searching some rolls of circulated pennies tonight and found a 1998P Wide AM (Type-2). It was really kind of grungy so I flipped it into the Mineral Oil vat to soak for a month or a year, lol. That's the 3rd one I've found this year. Two 1998's and a 2000. It's usually the other way around. 1998's are supposed to be the more uncommon of the two. But I'm sure the more of these that I find, the closer my ratio will come to that of the actual populations.

[pennyhound]

Just re-read your post ... lol, look at these.

[gription]

how RARE is the 92D close AM anyway... being that it's in the redbook (at less than the 72 ddo), i've assumed that it was "find-able" - but after months of checking ebay & the net in general, i've never even seen one for sale.

i've given up on finding one in circulation.. i still look, but i know i'll have to buy one.... after reading about how a guy turned down $5000 for his, it seems it's 'ultra-rare' - yeah? like < 20?

and now a 92P has been found? 'ultra-mega-super-rare' i guess eh........

[Gabe]

gription- the 1992D close AM cent is expremely rare, about a dozen known.

Chuck- I have been checking all 1998 and 1999 proof cents at the coin shows, but have not comed with anything yet. Since a number of them are always offered on ebay, they are probably not as rare as the 1999 wide AM cent. In other words, Im going to cherrypick me one of them!