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Steven
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:06 pm Reply with quote

Would this be an extra bar under the 4 or maybe a cause from an abraded die. Thunk I spelt that rite.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:53 pm Reply with quote

Yup! It looks that way. You can tell as the last digit outside next to rim is the area affected. I bet the other details are pretty much VLDS also. So I would say you have a 1954 poor-man's (so called) doubled die. Usuall the rest of the coin tell the same story. Die about to be scrapped, just waiting for the right die break-cud and final snapphoe, then its retired...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:14 pm Reply with quote

Thanks coop,
Thought it might be from a worn die. Wasn't sure about what's under the horizontal bar though. I'll keep lookin'. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:01 am Reply with quote

Steven,
The coin is definitely abraded, but I would not rule out that the area you are referring to is part of that. There are some 1954D and S cents that have an extra bar under the left side of the horizontal crossbar of the 4 in the date. It would take some extra time under the scope to determine if it is in fact abrasion related, or a doubled die. The only reason I suggest it might be something other than abrasion is the 'sharpness' of that area. I am inclined to agree with Coops assessment, but I usually want to be 100% sure. In this case, I am not. In either case, the die state of the coin with the obvious abrasion doubling would make me put it back in the bag.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:59 pm Reply with quote

The doubling on the coin photographed is abraded die doubling and nothing else. The line matches up perfectly, and the actual doubled dies are strongest on the left side of the digit, not the right side. This coin shows almost nothing on the left side of the digit.
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