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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 4:46 pm Reply with quote

Looks to be extra thickness on LIBERTY but can't tell about the date. I couldn't match any markers form the site photo of the 1DO-003. Found two of these. Took the pictures of this one before finding the second. Second may be in a little better condition.
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 6:38 pm Reply with quote

Definitely looks like a class 6 Steven. I checked all of my 1955 class 6 obverses, and none of them seem to match. You may have a new variety there!
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 6:53 pm Reply with quote

Thanks Bob,
I've found three of these now that look similar. The last one not in so good a condition. I have noticed on all three that there is a very small gouge, die chip or something just above and right between the B and E of LIBERTY. Bairly noticable on the photo.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:57 am Reply with quote

Just a point you may or may not know about Steven. There is Master Die Doubling on LIBERTY on very many 1955 P, D, & S coins. The die gouge or chip you mentioned might be pat of that.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 6:50 am Reply with quote

I'm gathering that this die crack or chip is on the field of the coins observed. If this is the case, it's not the master die, it would be a single die thing, but these are extremely common for this year's coins. They cannot be used without a doubt to note a single die unless they are the exact same thing on each coin.

Bob did bring up an important subject, though...the top of the B and E of LIBERTY on ALL 1955 cents from all mints have an indentation that some have mistaken to be doubling. This is the master die doubling he is referring to.

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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 9:00 am Reply with quote

This is a vary small raised area that I have only noticed, so far, on these three but I will keep looking. I could be a little deeper part of a die scratch but looks more like a chip in the field.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 10:47 am Reply with quote

That's the earliest beginning stage of a BIE die break A stress point cracks, weakens, continues to crack, and eventually breaks free. Whether or not this eventually turned into a BIE would be interesting to know, but these small cracks between the letters of LIBERTY are so common it cannot be taken for granted that two coins that have cracks in the same area are from the same die.

It works a lot like having chips and cracks on the outside columns of the memorial on the more modern cents. So many of them have it, they aren't really useable as good markers.

Same thing goes for the outer edges of the wings of the eagle on the reverse of Washington quarters. These are all very common stress points in certain periods of all these designs.

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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:16 am Reply with quote

Thanks for the information Chuck, I'll keep that in mind for future reference when looking for markers.

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