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Willie-ENew Member
Posts: 5 Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Location: Naples Fl.
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:55 pm |
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Just aquired a bag of 1964 D cents and have found cents with the mint mark in several places, this particular version has the mint mark moved the most significantly and what appears to be a split on the right side of the 4 in the date similar to the 1do-001. Your opinions and help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Willie-E
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Bob PSite Admin
Posts: 3482 Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Niceville, Florida
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:12 pm |
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Hi Willie,
The position of the mintmark on your coin(s) really doesn't mean too much. You need to remember that they were all hand punched at that time, so variances in the location are to be expected. As far as that little bar over the cross-let of the 4 in the date, there are many variances of that too. We will list the stronger ones on coppercoins.com such as the ones you see on the site. Some folks believe that the one like you have is a result of master die doubling. There are very many of that type on the 1964 P and D mint coins.
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coppercoinsSite Admin
Posts: 2809 Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Location: Springfield, Missouri.
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:09 pm |
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Interesting to note, however, is that these 'crosslet 4' doubled dies used to be listed by CONECA, but were eventually washed out of the system. They had, for the most part, been listed by Del Romines back in the 1980s.
As to what caused it, my belief is master die doubling as well.
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coopExpert Member
Posts: 3402 Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:48 pm |
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A better place to look for doubling if you see a seperation on the last digit of the date is check the L on LIBERTY. If it is doulbed it can be above/below that letter or on the IN on the motto. A good place to search reverse Letters are on the NE on ONE, ENT on CENT, I on AMERICA, F on OF, UNI and TED on UNITED. Most of the times doubled dies show up in these areas. After finding one, then other areas may also contain a seperation.
Images larger than 700 Pixcels tend to make the page larger on the sight and images at higher than 30X is just looking too closely. Then anything looks like something. Most collectors prefer doubling they can see at 10X or less. How amny have seen an archelogical site in progress? Do you note they use a screen sift the dirt to find objects. They are looking for the larger items and not just the dirt around them. So when searching we want to find the treasures and not just what is common. And there is a lot of common stuff out there to distract us. Just move on to the next coin and view it as a potential find.
_________________ Richard S. Cooper
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