My first post...is this a die chip?

[rjsvt]

I've enjoyed reading through these forums and thought I'd join in. I hope I can contribute something of value to the discussions, but I'll warn you, for awhile I'll probably just be asking stupid questions

First one...was this caused by a die chip or something else? It's a 2000 P.





Thanks for any info you can give me.

[Steven]

Welcome Bob,
My guess is it would be a progressive die crack due to what looks like a tail south of the glob of metal.
I don't think asking questions is stupid but not asking would probably leave one with a knowledge deficit.

[Bob P]

Hi Bob,
Welcome to the coppercoins.com forum. I agree with the assessment that this coin shows a die crack and chip. The position of it is a little unusual though.
Anyway, please do ask questions. That's why we are here, and we have some of the most knowledgeable folks who visit the forum often. Once again, Welcome!

[coop]

Welcome aboard Bob!! It is a correct assumption by the first two members. The first one is that a question NOT asked, may leave you the consideration of something you assume, rather that what the consus is. So there is not dumb question, rather a correction of thinking when wrong and others benefit when they see the answer when reading the forum. The forum is unique in that the messages posted here remain for all to benefit. Even gives us a chance to correct misspellings when you go back to questions way back. Why would making corrections on older posts be necessary? Misspellings/new thought/new discoveries that we have made, we don't read again usually, but consider: When new members read the forum they will benefit from this information. Althought it may be a re-run to us, a new member is seeing it for the first time. Si I try to keep my posts corrected and leave all images in place as they are there for others that may join us, benefits. Ebay acution material in posts may disappear with time, so I try to keep an image of the item being discussed added to the forum. The item will soon disappear after the auction ends, but by adding the image to the forum, then later readers can still benefit.
The die crack/chip/break/deteriation of a die is like a pot hole in reverse. When a pot hole starts it is just a small dip in the road. When water fills this dip and splashes out it takes part of the road with us. This continues for a time and the pot hole gets larger and larger, till the one in charge fixes it shortly before loosing a car or two into it. The same way with a die. Because of something when unknown happens, the die may start an area which starts to get a blemish on it. While the die is hardened, under the surface that area may be a little softer and start to crumble away with age. So the die progresses from a scratch or crack into an opened area on the die that continues to wear away with time. The area gets larger and larger as time goes on and eventually gets so larger and, the die needs to be replaced. It is just part of the life process of a die. Use it till the die has had the max of lifes use, then retired. There is also another senereo of what your coin may have experienced. Sometimes the platting on the post 1982 Cents with the zinc core, get moved. The result is that the zinc start to errode away or get bumpy. But I believe the first assesment is the case on your coin. So hang in there and I see you've included images on your second post. Congrations and Welcome.

[walkingdude]

While the die is hardened, under the surface that area may be a little softer and start to crumble away with age. So the die progresses from a scratch or crack into an opened area on the die that continues to wear away with time.

Question Coop,

The part that crumbles, does this sometimes get struck into a coin(s) or does the ejection process take it away?

[coppercoins]

Best guess as to what happened...Coop may have said it in so many more words, but I couldn't read it.

The die was polished heavily in a small area, which left an oddly shaped column edge. The die chipped away at the edge of the point where the polishing and the column met, causing a die crack. The die cracked has progressed somewhat, but not much--it is still sharply defined and has not worn.

What do I win?

[coop]

Well, maybe the word crumbled is not exactly correct as the die didn't crumble like blue cheese, but with the wear on the weaker area cracks/breaks/die flow, it from continued use that makes that area wear faster. So I guess that term would not be the best to use. But the weaken areas wear quicker and if you compared coins a thousand from each minting you could see the wear better. So it is more of a gradual thing rather than a crumbling. But in somecases where there is a sever di break or cud happening, I've heard of pieces of die in some examples, but that is very rarely.

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