1943D Lincoln

[drwstr123]

Bob-PM sent

[drwstr123]

Since we're on the topic, does anyone have an opinion as to whether this is a 1943 D/D RPM #4?

[wavysteps2003]

Since the "doubling" is seen not only on the mintmark, but also on the date, with the doubling having the same direction and spacing on both elements, abraded or die detrioration doubling is the most obvious cause. This is mostly seen on the 1955 and the 1953, with it being called "poor man's double die" and for some reason (hole filler for the real thing), they have commanded a premium through out the years. Unfortunately, 1943, from all three mints, also has this flaw (die detrioration or abraded doubling), with many being called "double dies" and RPMs when they are not.

Hope that this helps

WAVYSTEPS2003 aka BJ Neff

[coop]

Then add the reprocessed Cents which accent the normal features into a phoney looking so called DD/RPM, usually both and they are worth as much as an uncirculated steel Cent. Most collectors wouldn't even touch the replated Zinc cents. Most of the time you can see lumps and rooughness in the fields which is a dead give away. The reprocessed ones may look enticing to newbies, but later figure out what they really are and embarrased to admit they bought one. But they are sold on Ebay to the rubes for high dollars. I guess that is their choice.

[drwstr123]

Thanks for the getback. Opinions appreciated. Coop-I agree with what you say, but are you implying that this coin is reprocessed?

[coop]

No, I believe it is a regular coin. Usually you can tell the reprocessed ones also from die scratches on the rims. But I feel yours has not been reprocessed. But the die deteriation looks real close to how the reprocessed look accented. They worked the dies till they fell apart and the Steel to steel contact cause a lot of large die crack like your coin has on the bust.

[drwstr123]

Took a while but here's a reprocessed 1943 D:

[coop]

Colored also... A double death stroke. Re-processed and heat toned to get that color. What people will do to coins to get money on ebay...

[drwstr123]

Just got home...it has arrived. Hope these pics are more accurate.

[Bob P]

Looks very nice Mike. You think they could have put RPM #001 or something other on the slab other than D/D.

Anyway...I sent you a PM. I have found a young 11 year old girl who I just presented the coins you sent to add to her collection. She's got the bug for varieties now that she found her first Minnesota DDR. Her grandfather left her a nice starting point with folders and bags of coins to search. Something about these YN's though that kinda makes you smile. When I gave her the coins, she said they were 'pretty'. Can't get any better than that! She also wanted me to pass on a message from her. It went something like this....'Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, Thank You'. I now also have a student to teach, and I don't mind that a bit

[drwstr123]

Bob, As it turns out, this was one of the more worthwhile results of a post. Let's hope the young numis catches the bug for a long and healthy time. Thanks, Mike

[eagames]

The graders (PCGS, NGC, ANACS) will only put the attribution on the slab if you pay extra for it and it about doubles the cost.

If you don't pay the extra for attribution if you're lucky they might say something general like D/D or S/S or doubled die but not which one it is. Some graders will only attribute a major variety. I'm not sure if PCGS or NGC will attribute the minor ones unless they have FS numbers but ANACS will.

[GarryN]

I think I mentioned somewhere else that at the last big coin show in Chicago last June, I gave one of my 1908-S cents to NGC. I handed it to a staffer there. It was the 1908 S/S and I paid an extra $7.50 for the attribution. When the coin came back, there was no attribution whatsoever on the slab. No "S/S" no nothing. I called and they said they do not attribute Snow numbers. Why did you take my $7.50 then? I asked. Uh, well we uh credited your card for $7.50. Well it still ticked me off that the staffer did not know they did not attribute Snow numbers.

[garylcsr]

Coop he said PCGS not SGS lol
Gary