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wavysteps2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:42 am Reply with quote

Long have I suspected that some 1974 Lincoln cent, large dates, were actual doubled dies, however, the notching was not there and only slight distorton of some of the design elements were the only clue to this anomaly.

Now this may have changed. Take a look at the following photos.







Although the notching is minor, it is still present, as is the extra thickness both on the date and TRUST. Maybe we had better start looking a bit closer at the 1974s, there may be more out there.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:37 pm Reply with quote

thanks, waveysteps for sharing and the heads up , so to speak. nice pics . HH Very Happy "to err is human to forgive is devine"
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:54 am Reply with quote

wavy,
Going through a roll of 74s tonight and found several with a bit lighter knotching than what you show here on the 74 of the date but found on the IN and G of motto there is notching as well even though very minor. Is there notching there on your example.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:21 am Reply with quote

I think many, if not most, type 1 (large date) 1974 cents have the same or similar notching. Question is whether the die state of the hub or die will be early enough to make it apparent. I have seen only one 1974 cent that was convincing as a doubled die and it was a type 2 (small date).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:56 am Reply with quote

I have a feeling that we are not looking at the normal working die doubling, but possibly a master die doubling that it similar in nature to what happened in 1972, however, in this cae, to a lesser degree. When comparing the 1974 small date and the 1975-79 dates, for they all use the same 1, 9 and 7 digit (the 1973 date used different fonts) to the 1974 large date, you can see a marked difference in the thickness, which is not uniform throughout the entire digits. This is especially evident in the 9 digit of the 1974 large date. As it has been observed by others, this seems to be the norm for this typed date which leads me to believe that it is master die doubling.

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