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[nightshade]

on this coin there is something that looks like another pillar to the left of the first pillar going almost all of the way up the monument what could it be ?

[Dick]

nightshade, from what I see, the most it could be, possibly is a slight amount of MD. It looks like any other zinc reverse, and the designers initials, (to me), indicate 20XX. Wide A", and not one of the "Goodies".
Dick

[nightshade]

its a 1992 penny but i cant get good lighting for a decent pic also one of the e in cent looks like it has extra arms its kinda hard to tell with me because i can only see out of one eye

[coppercoins]

Appears to be machine doubling to me.

[Dick]

Nughtshade, I still have two, but I can't see a focal pouint, so I am screwed! Good thing we have scopes, to make 'em big enough to see, "the whites of their eyes"!
Dick

[eagames]

I can see it on the outside edge of the first column, it's strong but only on the first pillar.

Must be MD. It's hard to imagine how but one of the traits of MD is that it can show in one area but not others. I think this is an example of that happening.

[nightshade]

forums are have always been a real pain in the wel you know for me trying to find information and such since im a real newb at this and have only been doing it for a month or so can you maybe help link me to some of the die erors that i should be looking for and maybe also link me to some examples of common errors so i can stop wasting everyones valueable time over something that more than likely isnt worth looking at
p.s. since the wreck i was in i am drained of money and am relying on others (family) so pls if you can send me to some free info it would be greatly appreciated. I also have a bad case of adhd yet for some reason i can spend 5 hours straight looking through 5 rolls of coins with out even getting up for food water or potty breaks im begining to wonder if this is healthy
thanks for all the help you guys have given me so far specially bob who thanks to the original e-mail he sent me with my forum registration has turned me into a mad dog who wont let go of his bone

[CoinboyJay]

Nightshade.

I suggest buying books and STUDYING them.
You will learn things like starting in 1990 mint marks were added to master hub and NOT punched in to working dies anymore, so there are no RPM's after 1989......so don't waste time looking for RPM's after then. 1995 is the last year for a known Hub Doubled Die Lincoln. Soon after that (year ? sombody help me) they changed the minting process to eliminate Hub doubling. The Doubling now found is from this new form of single squeeze doubling. Much harder to attribute in my opinion.
There is MUCH to learn, as with anything, the more you study, and the longer you do this, the more you will figure out what you want to look for and look at those coins only, so don't get discouraged.
You are in the right place for expert help.
(not mine, I can only offer encouragement!!)

Cheers,
JAY

[nightshade]

well even you helped me due to the fact that even that little jewel of information was not known to me prior to reading your post also any knowledge gained is good and any knowledge recieved is appreciated

[Dick]

Nightshade, there is a lot of doubling, on the reverse, even to the 2008's, but it is primarily kept to the center area of the coins. See the site, and late-date REV doubling, for the bars, columns, and other anomalies in that area. It is on all denominations from 25 cents and below.
The "single-Squeeze process" was supposed to eliminate the doubling, but, "tain't so Mcgee"! It has produced some different anomalies, however, like the trails dies, and "wavy-steps". See http://traildies.com/
RPM's no longer are preseny, or possible, after 1989, since they started making the MM a part of the die in 1990. As far as no more "hub-doubling" after the single -squeeze process, that was started in '86, and later became "par for the course", however the single-squeeze is still produces HUB-DOUBLING. See this one:2007P-1DR-002
Dick

[Dick]

Nightshade, a follow-yp to my last: If you go to the coppercoins home, you will find a lot of good info that will help you get a hold of the operation of the forum, and we all were 'newbies", at one time, (speaking for myself0 and thru the asking of questions, one learns a whole lot that books can tell you, but before you have to read the book! There areno silly, or stupid questions! There are members here who can answer ANY question posed, believe me! Make yourself at home, and enjoy the thing that is your passion, as it is with the rest of us! I started as a "collector of "coins. Any coin, many years ago, world, Mexican US, then found this site. now I have found varieties to be the major interest, (for me), and the most interesting areas of indeavor, not to mention the most gratifying, as well.
Dick

[nightshade]

thanks dick great info and i have another question hopefully someone else might know what could cause an area on my coin near the edge that looks like a lightining bolt but it is indented into the coin as opposed to being raised?

[coop]

Here is probably what you have, but this one is an extreme example.

On this example a vise was used to make it look like a double strike happened. Which it did not. A double strike would show the devices of heads on tails/heads on heads, but the opposite side would not be heads/heads, tails on heads. That would be impossible. Also the devices seen as mirrored instead of struck in there proper shape. The devices also appear incuse, rather than raised. That is a transfer from one coin to another. this is after strike damage.
Here is an example of a doubled strike coin. (Proof even)

So if the letters are mirrored and incuse, then it is damage. I hope this helps.

[nightshade]

coop it is real small maybe a little smaller than the letters in liberty it starts wide near edge of coin and moves inward looking like a lighting bolt coming to a point it looks like something that looks like a die crack yet instead of raised it indents into the coin ill get a picture of it in bout 3 hours from this post i got to run to the doc to find out if i can go back to work yet.

[eagames]

Nightshade,

What you described could also be a scratch on the coin or the coin might be a struck through. Sometimes grease or something like a wire bristle gets struck onto the coin and makes an indented line in the coin then that wire falls off leaving a line.

If it's a scratch you might see raised metal at the end or edges of the line.

If it was struck through a wire bristle you should see no raised metal, focus on the ends and edges of it to see.