Are either of these 1941 plain Ts DDOs?

[eagames]

Yep I'm lookin at 41 plains

What about these 2 1941 plains

The top one looks doubled on the vertical bar of the last T of trust, looks like some of the DDOs for that year but I was not sure if it is just MD or real, it has no doubling anyplace else so I thought it was one of the ones in the T/T flock for that year

The second one is a different one that has some chuncks out of the first and last T of trust, could it be broken over normal or do those only get the last T

[ldarrellc]

well my eyes says it is MD but who am I to say I cant even tell or find a wavy step

[Bob P]

1941 is a very good year to search.
The proper terminology for the broken hub for 1941 was the 'Full T over Broken T'. Somewhere in the forum, I have posted a few pics of what some of them look like. The broken hub affected the last T of TRUST only. Yours do not look like they are from that hub.
As far as the doubled T goes, it looks more mechanical than hub related to me.

[ldarrellc]

wow I finally got one right. I even impress myself sometimes

[eagames]

Darrell,
It's one of those that for most years would get thrown back in the pond right away as MD.

But in 1941 there's over a dozen varieties that only have a non broken top T over broken T or the other way around (some look broken of non broken) and I think also a few where the vertical bar is doubled so they get a second look.

Most fall into the catagory of stuff I don't mind finding but probably so minor you wouldn't be able to sell for much or wouldn't buy for much premium. There's also so many broken T varieties for that year that several also have shift from other reasons and doubled eylids or other areas which make some nicer than the rest. I've never seen all of them listed anyplace. There's a few years like 1936 and 1941 and now 2006 that somebody could write a book just on the ddo/ddr varieties from one year