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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:17 pm Reply with quote

I bought this short set 41-61 and got it in the mail today. Total cost about $27.+.
They said AU-BU. and is mostly UNC. A quick look and I saw this 1946S and about fell over. I am hoping it is the 1OM-001 and I think it is. Looking for some confirmation please.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:26 pm Reply with quote

Confirmed.

Extremely rare in that grade. A $300-$500 (or more) find. Nice!

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:30 pm Reply with quote

Like I've said before, I couldn't grade an egg but what would you say this one might grade at.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:33 pm Reply with quote

MS64RD...possibly MS65RD, but not below or above.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:35 pm Reply with quote

Is that a die crack extending due south off the back of the shoulder? If so, that's a marker I didn't know about.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:38 pm Reply with quote

Chuck that line looks to be a carbon spot/streak.

Also found this one in the same set.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:41 pm Reply with quote

OK Steven...You can stop now Laughing
What a fantastic find in that short set. Very many congrats go out to you. That is one of the few I don't have.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:44 pm Reply with quote

Wow...even I don't have one of those 1959 DDOs. Not sure right off which die it is, but it's one of the nicer class 2 examples. I've been looking for one of those for years now.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:45 pm Reply with quote

Steven: I think you should by another one. Great finds. Stuff I don't have either.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:47 pm Reply with quote

Chuck...that's the good 1959P-1DO-001. LDS specimen I believe. I have an EDS that's on the site.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:47 pm Reply with quote

THis 59 looks to be the LDS listed on the site by the Obv. markers but I believe there may have been a change on the Rev. Not the same markers there the best I can tell.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:18 pm Reply with quote

Great finds Steven - you are definitely on a roll. But, out of the three most recent that have landed in your possession, you will never guess which I think is the most important???????

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:19 pm Reply with quote

I was going to be nice about this set and wrote the seller and ask her to e-mail me and I was going to tell her that if she is using BU rolls to make these set she may want to check this site before selling any more of them. But she sent me an e-bay message and said "the coins have been sent do I have a question about the auction". I just told her I wanted to thank her again and left it at that. I guess she didn't want to e-mail me for some reason. My gain as well as others she sells to I guess.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:22 pm Reply with quote

I can make a good guess at that Robert.
It went out in the mail today with a little extra. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:53 pm Reply with quote

Thanks Steven

So as not to keep people guessing, the most important coin that I was talking about is the new 2006 doubled die with trails Lincoln cent. Yes, the doubling is minor and yes the trails are not all that long, HOWEVER, it is a very important die.

For years I have been trying to find the exact cause of wavy steps and trails and in doing so, have gathered enough evidence to prove that they are NOT doubled dies. They are, however, another brand new form of variety and Steven's coin goes a long way in proving that point.

In all my coillection of wavy steps and trails, I have wavy steps with doubled dies, I have trails with doubled dies, I have trails and wavy steps on the same side and I have trails and wavy steps one on one side and the other on the other side. But what I did not have was a doubled die and trails on the same design element, in this case LIBERTY.

The implications are simple. Since the doubled die is a shift in the east / west direction and the trails are in the southerly direction, both these effects could NOT have happened at the same time. We know that most single squeeze doubling happens in the begining of the hubbing, when the pressure is being applied to the hub in increasingly greater amounts. Once the hub to die has been correctly seated through this increasing pressure (this will be after the doubled die has happened) there will be no further corrections to the hub / die position. So what that means is that the trail effect must happen at another time and the most logical place / time is at the end of hubbing.

That is what is so important about this die.

For all of you who are interested in wavy steps and trails, CONECA's "ERRORSCOPE" Nov/Dec issue, just came out wth my latest article on these two anomalies. There will be one more on this subject that will more than likely be in the Mar/Apr issue and that will discuss the theory on the formation of this new variety. I also plan on using Stevens coin in that article with his permission of course.

Well any how, that is the little story concerning this 2006 doubled die with trails.

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