1953 Una Peseta with a Class IV doubled die
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wavysteps2003Expert Member
Posts: 1344 Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:47 pm |
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I think that this is the first time that I have posted here, Well anyway, take a look at an awesome Class I doubled die from Spain. I'll be doing an article on this one in ERRORSCOPE along with a few other dies.
As you can see, the peripheral lettering is all strongly doubled, along with the denticles. This is a "Una Peseta" similar to the one cent.
By the way, beers for all; its my 1000 post!!!!!!!
BJ Neff
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Last edited by wavysteps2003 on Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:45 pm; edited 1 time in total
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DickExpert Member
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Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:00 pm |
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BJ, that is a nice one! Gracias!
Dick
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RussellhomeVeteran Member
Posts: 280 Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Mechanicsville, VA
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:10 pm |
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| wavysteps2003 wrote: |
I think that this is the first time that I have posted here...
BJ Neff |
I didn't know that the U.S. had annexed Spain.
I like that one, too. Those dentiles (or what ever they are called) look like a bunch of little ladybugs lined up in a row. The german coins I've been finding have those on the reverse - and I've used them to guage where the strongest area of doubling is. Anyway - great coin -- thanks for posting it. And congrats on your 1000th post!
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wavysteps2003Expert Member
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:35 pm |
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Yeah - I know the wrong spot. One piece of information to add. This coin was minted in 1956, which can be seen on the two stars on the reverse of the coin.
BJ Neff
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Bob PSite Admin
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:58 pm |
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BJ,
Congratulations on your 1,000th post, and the nice world coin variety. For other collectors of world errors/varieties, we have talked about Columbia, Brazil, and other countries whose coinage offers a fair chance of finding something. With BJ's coin, I should mention that Spanish coins also seem to have a good amount of varieties/errors...especially the Una Peseta. Out of a small bag of world coins, I found 12 Una Peseta coins. Out of the dozen, I found one with class 1, one with class 5, and one with class 2 doubling on them. They aren't near as impressive as BJ's example, and are dated 1966, 1975, and 1980. So we know we can find them in 4 consecutive decades anyway!
Congrats again BJ!.
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wavysteps2003Expert Member
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:02 pm |
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I am slipping - should mention the fact that this coin was sent to me by Dennis Mize of Arizona.
Thanks Bob and hopefully I'll make another 1000 (groan) posts (LOL).
BJ
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cladkingMember
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:17 am |
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Very nice. It's a remarkable coin.
Most people don't realize how tough these little aluminum bronze coins are from the '40's and '50's in nice XF. This date isn't overly tough per Krause but it is undervalued.
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coppercoinsSite Admin
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:07 pm |
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Very nice coin, but I should mention that it is not class 4, which would be offset hub doubling. Your coin is class 1, rotated hub doubling.
In class 4 the entire design would be shifted in a cardinal direction - north, east, south, west, etc. This would, in your case, show doubling on the inside of the lettering on one side of the design, and on the outside of the lettering opposite that.
Class 1, rotated hub doubling has a spread that is rotated from some point inside the design, usually near the center. The result is doubling that shows evenly throughout all the outer lettering and runs the same direction all the way around.
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wavysteps2003Expert Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:40 pm |
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Chuck - I agree with you 100% that it is a Class I doubled die (hub rotated, CW). I took a second look at it and re-evaluatedf my first opinion.
BJ Neff
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GarryNExpert Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:49 pm |
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Those doubled dies are really awesome. I need to get my hands on a couple someday. So to speak...
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RobertSenior Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:07 pm |
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Bob- Wavy is right about the dates on those Spanish coins. On the reverse side should be 2 small stars. You probably will need a magnifier, but one star will have "19" incused in it, and the other will show the last 2 years of the date the coin was struck. The date under the portrait is the first year or so of that series.
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Bob PSite Admin
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:01 pm |
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Thanks Robert. I did not know that. I went back and checked, and the dates of the three varieties I have are 1970, 1976, and 1980. Thanks again!
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