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fiddle-fartVeteran Member
Posts: 479 Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Location: Charlestown, Indiana
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:43 am |
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what caused this
it just seemed a little wierd
Thanks
Mike
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coopExpert Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:52 pm |
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Looks like the plating moved during striking. It is on the devices above the head also.
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fiddle-fartVeteran Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:23 pm |
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so I guess would not call it a tdo (triple die obverse)
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coopExpert Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:37 pm |
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 2:55 pm |
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Yep, looks like that coin has the plating shifted, not a DDO.
One of the nicest DDOs that shows doubling on the top and bottom of the bust is 1984 1DO-002. It's a DDO most people ignore but it's one of the nicest and the more you look at them the more you notice. I like it better than the well known 1984 doubled ear.
Notice how the doubling shows in the top hair and lower bust:
http://coppercoins.com/lincoln/diestate.php?date=1984&die_id=1984p1do002&die_state=mds
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fiddle-fartVeteran Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 4:06 pm |
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mikediamondAdvanced Member
Posts: 191 Joined: 09 Oct 2003 Location: Western Illinois
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 5:29 pm |
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It simply looks like disturbed plating, possibly related to the blistering seen elsewhere on the coin. The blistering develops at the moment of the strike and it's conceivable that blistering can hug the margin of the design.
A "stutter strike" is entirely different. A stutter strike features a weak incomplete image next to the normal image. It's produced when the hammer die (it's always the hammer die) makes light, transient contact with the planchet's surface before it completes its downstroke in a slightly different position. A stutter strike is something of a wastebasket category as it can occur in association with several different types of errors. It never occurs on an otherwise normal-looking coin. It's always associated with some other error, like an indent, partial brockage, off-center strike against a stiff collar etc. Stutter strikes are quite rare.
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fiddle-fartVeteran Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 5:43 pm |
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Thank you Mike
I learned something new.
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