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MorgansRmineAdvanced Member
Posts: 132 Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:31 pm |
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Coming off shoulder to handkerchief.
Coming off handkerchief to Linc's butt and log.
Between log and back of left leg.
Between legs.
Off right leg to log.
Off top of log and fades away at ONE CENT.
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coopExpert Member
Posts: 3402 Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:30 pm |
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Looks possible. Can you get a image of the entire reverse. If it is lathe lines you should see it in a circular pattern and not in a cleaning pattern that is not circular.
I opened a roll of the LP2-P Cents and found 16 DDR's !0 of 022 and 6 of 008
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MorgansRmineAdvanced Member
Posts: 132 Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:42 am |
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Hi coop, this is where me and my equipment are a definate failure. I can get decent closeups with details or a decent picture of the coin but not the details. Guess if I'm going to keep up with these cents, I'm going to have to invest in a little better equipment. I can't find a complete circle on the coin but intermitant parts of circles in different areas. A few more pics to show some of them.
Arc off log and fadeing out at last A of AMERICA.
Partial arc from mallet and E Pluribus fadeing at Unum.
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DickExpert Member
Posts: 5780 Joined: 21 Sep 2006 Location: Rialto, CA.
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:40 pm |
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It still looks like polishing lines. They don't follow true enough to be Lathe lines. I could be wrong, but that is nothing new!
Dick
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coopExpert Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:15 pm |
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Here is another weird one:
I found one and thought, planchet damage.
Then I found a second one exactly the same. The marks are pressed into the fields, so it must be something stuck on the die. If it were damage to the die, these items would be raised. So what do others think about this?
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:43 pm |
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| The marks are pressed into the fields, so it must be something stuck on the die. |
I agree, just hard to reason why it stuck on the fields.
Just picked up a few rolls of D mint at todays swap meet, pondering if I should open them or not.
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coopExpert Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:47 pm |
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Now I guess I need to find another coin from the same batch with the same obverse markers to see if it got pulled or just keep striking through.
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DickExpert Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:45 pm |
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some of the marks, are an inigma, but others sure look like polishing marks. The "gouge" that is noted, must be, as you say, something stuck to the die. At the speed, amnd pressure the presses operate, it could be bits ot filings that are "spot-welded, thru impact, and hang on the die. just a thought.
Dick
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coopExpert Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:45 am |
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I found about 6 other coins in the roll that did not have the struck through on it. I would buy the other box from the same seller to see if there were more. I found $149 worth of DDRs in that roll figuring the MS-63 amounts. I'll check later to see if I can get it for the same price as the other box I got from him.
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MorgansRmineAdvanced Member
Posts: 132 Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:00 am |
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Had my granddaughter check her place of employment for any more of these Lincolns. Out of another half dozen, I found 1 more with these rings on it. With this second one I can now piece together a full circle except where the details are raised on the coin. Don't know a lot about how they polish coins. Do they have some kind of milling machine that rotates when polishing ?
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DickExpert Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:57 am |
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The only one that I can think of, who can answer that question, is Ken Pottert> I understand he worked in the mint, at one time.
Dick
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coppercoinsSite Admin
Posts: 2809 Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Location: Springfield, Missouri.
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:07 pm |
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The first coin does have lathe lines.
The second coin I cannot answer for. I don't know what happened to that one.
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n1totMember
Posts: 55 Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Location: Holyoke Ma.
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:33 pm |
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Coop, that was struck on a defective planchet, the zinc sheet was defective, then they plated over the defect, if you look on the shoulder, you can still see some of the gouge in the design, that and the arm looks funny. Why they didn't catch that before they punched the blanks, and cut that part of the of the sheet out is beyond me.............. Of coarse the mint gets their cent blanks from an outside contractor, QC must have been sleeping that day.
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eagamesExpert Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:03 pm |
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| that was struck on a defective planchet |
It's possible. It could be ruled out if there's another coin with the same marks. I'd expect that if it was on the die there might be more in the same roll or box,
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coopExpert Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:33 pm |
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I found two exactly alike. The rolling lines on the obverse are in two different directions. I had to be something stuck to the die. I found other normal examples in the same roll. Just these two like the image above.
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